A Illustration of the unrealistic standards that society sets for men

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        At one point some Greeks were trying to define the word Man, they came up with a featherless biped, and the next day someone released a plucked chicken in the school.

        There are some words that are notorious for being hard to define. What they figured out was for those words to instead build up criteria.

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          Not just someone, the legendary philosopher Diogenes. One of my favorites stories is that one day he was cleaning veggies in a river or something, when Plato walked up and was like “You know Diogenes, if only you could pay taxes to the king you wouldn’t have to wash vegetables.” And Diogenes responds, “You know Plato, if only you could wash vegetables you wouldn’t have to pay taxes to the king.”

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              I’m still unsure what it even means. Based in what? Reality, fantasy? It’s clearly a US thing and often seems associated with the more right wing

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                It’s fucking stupid … There’s a story about.it originating with an obscure ass rapper a few years back but I don’t buy that… It’s really from reddit, absolutely right wing, and completely stupid as fuck.

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                  It absolutely was repopularised by Lil B, I was there for it. My understanding at the time was that it was a reclamation of the word from an original slang meaning of being strung out on crack. Lil B was celebrated ironically by the 4channers that later propagated the right wing appropriation of the term. I always interpreted that to refer to being strung out on ‘the red pill’ i.e. being unapologetically fascist.

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        The definition of a man, where it came from, the argument. These people aren’t the educated thinking type.

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    Honestly the biggest power move in the world was Jordan Peterson pissing his pants and sobbing about Elliot Page while Page was completely oblivious to his whining and just living his best life.

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        I can’t, I was banned by the fascists for saying trans men are men. So I had to come here unfortunately.

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          You were banned from all of reddit for having the prevailing opinion when it comes to trans men? Doubt.

          It still doesn’t affect the idiocy of your original post. Maybe check before calling everyone bigots eh? They might just have information you don’t. :) x

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            No, when it comes to “trans women”. Someone needing to have “information” to know someones gender is the whole point. They’re trying to say you have to ignore your own eyes and intelligence and believe some made up story instead.

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              So you are saying you must constantly remind yourself and everyone you are talking to of someone’s genitals at birth in every conversation you have constantly or else what - you’ll forget?

              Are you a goldfish?

              People aren’t asking you to ignore your eyes dude. They are asking you to allow people space to use their mental tools so they can more easily get through their day. They are legit telling their friends and the people they are around most what way to treat them will make them happiest to make them the most comfortable to be themselves. When you present yourself as a obstacle to someone else’s joy and/or wellbeing yeah, people treat you like an ass. You are not the arbiter of truth here. People know that trans women were born phenotypicly male. They are just able to prioritize more than “monkey see, monkey speak”.

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                The case in point here is a photo. I have no idea about their genitals, nor what they “identify as”. I see a woman, clear as day. I’m not talking to them, so “what they want me to call them” is not an issue.

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                  So is Buck Angel a man or a woman?

                  Are you deluded enough to call Buck Angel a woman too?

                  I’ll give you some credit for choosing to use gender neutral pronouns rather than misgendering Page - even if it would have undermined your point to use gendered pronouns.

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                  So you are afraid of doing any mental work. Not surprised. Also this particular person, Elliot Page, is one of the most famous trans men out there and even if he weren’t famous you are grandstanding about how you want to call trans people whatever you feel like.

                  When you are nasty behind someone’s back it’s still you showing off how much of a mean killjoy you are practicing up to be to somebody’s face someday and that you are proud of being a mean ass killjoy. Then you get upset because ta da - people treat you like a mean killjoy. How unpredictable!

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              What point do you think you’re making mate…?

              Are you actually gonna go with the idea that knowing information is a bad thing and we should all work off instinct and assumptions instead?

              See any issue with that idea? Might it lead to ignorant comments like yours do you think?

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                See any issue with your idea that you should let “what people tell you” override your own intelligence? Must not have too much of it if you are in favor of that.

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                  I don’t see that point anywhere mate. I do enjoy the irony in your last sentence though, you’re so intelligent that you incorrectly accused a group of people of misgendering someone.

                  Anyway this clearly leads nowhere good, just try and have a think about it buddy :) x