Also dealerships: $10k mark up on this bad boy!
Why do we even have dealerships?
It’s a delicate ecosystem: the car salesmen need their cut to spend on drinking and gambling or else the bars and dog tracks will shut down causing more unemployment.
All part of a petroleum-based economy.
Not to mention coke isn’t exactly cheap when it’s not served in a bottle or a glass.
Right? And if the coke dealers go, there go the exotic cat dealers too.
I’d like to be able to order a vehicle off Amazon and have it delivered. That really isn’t so crazy.
Yes, especially since they don’t have to be fitted like clothes or shoes. It’s off-the-shelf anyways.
That’s the one thing where I agree with Musk, they’re not necessary.
I don’t want amazon involved in anything, but I’ve bought a car off the internet before and had it delivered. I only had to to go anywhere to do the wire transfer at my bank.
Cannot you buy Hyundai through Amazon?
Apparently you can order it but you still have to go to a dealer to settle the deal and pick it up. So, lame.
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Every dealership in my area has their markup at least the amount of the tax credit. More than a few have exactly the tax credit. Tax credits are supposed to help steer the market, they’re not a handout to pointless middleman.
These stories piss me off, because I tried from January to May to buy a Chevy Bolt from a dozen plus dealers and all I found was markups, falsely advertising customer pre-ordered vehicles as available for sale, and even 3 year old models with 5000 miles being advertised as “new.”
I finally gave up and bought a used car from an independent honest dealer. All this talk of EV’s not being able to sell is just the dealer tactics coming back to haunt them and I say fuck them
I needed to drive 5 hours to get one at a good price. And they were moving tones of that model though. The other places I went to also mentioned their EVs were moving very quickly, one I was looking at was bought within 2 days of listing. So this doesn’t at all match with my experience. Maybe they’re referring to the super expensive luxury EVs rather than lower price ones?
Or, hear me out… they are lying. The dealerships are just lying liars and are lying. Because that’s what liars do.
There was just an article (or a couple) the other week about how dealerships are intentionally pushing people to ICE vehicles and lying about EVs anyway they can. I think in one example a sales person told a customer looking at EVs that they can only go 25 MPH or something lmao
Start selling cheaper ones. The day a sub $20,000 EV comes along that can do more than 150 miles on a charge you will all shut up and take my money. I don’t need fancy features, I just need something that can get me to work and back with a bit of wiggle room and never have to pay for gas again. 150 miles would be more than sufficient, but 200 would be PERFECT. Leaf and Bolt are close, can we get something a little cheaper, pretty please?
Not many quality ICE vehicles come at that price point these days.
Can’t even get many used for that cheap these days.
Do you need new? I got a used bolt for about 12k.
Oh where at?
Midwest, found it online
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They all got their batteries replaced on a recall in 2019, (they may have been replaced more recently then that, the recall replacements started in 19) so they should all have about 220mi range depending how you drive
Buy used? I don’t understand the argument that they need to be cheaper as new, when you wouldn’t have bought new before but now you will for electric? I’ve had my bolt since COVID started and it’s been great. Don’t buy leaf tho
Can buy used for 13-17k depending, ~200mi interstate range
It is not in a dealers best interest to sell vehicles that require less costly services for the life of the car which is a big ongoing revenue for many dealerships.
This is the exact reason everyone across the globe exclusively use horses for transportation. Replacing them with these horseless carriages would destroy the shoeing business, where would we put all of the feed?.. What is Biden thinking?!
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Sales people do not have that long a perspective. The article does talk about 100-200% turnover every year, which is again horrible practices coming back to bite them, but the sales person is only interested in immediate commission and bonus
How about you and the manufacturers sell them cheaper, and now here me out. Maybe then, and I know this is a crazy idea. But could we make it so that the already rich multi million dollar owners earned less?
Nah, wouldn’t want that. I’m sure VW and the gang need the money.
We have no money and everything is more expensive.
Biden: Sounds like a you problem.
While in Canada there is 12-24 months wait time for an EV…