• Spendrill@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    Morning people, in my experience at least, firmly believe that night people are just morning people with insufficient self-discipline.

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      Lmao, 100%. I swear most folks I know believe being a night owl is simply a lack of self control, or they have a screw loose

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        sure it’s a lack of self control, if i had better self control i could force myself to go to bed at 21:00 and lie there for 2 hours until i fall asleep out of tortured boredom, and then i could force myself out of bed at 07:00 despite my limbs feeling like lead and every movement bringing me abject misery and pain!

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      What’s wild is that you’ll see them get a night job, or have to stay up late on vacation a few times and they’ll be 100/10 miserable af. Never adapt to it, and still keep believing iTs aLl SeLf DiScIpLInE

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        Well what it ‘proves’ to them is that mankind is supposed to follow the exact same routine that works for them. My Dad was forever saying “Early to bed, early to rise makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise.” Died when he was 45.

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          To quote Yakko Warner:

          Early to rise and early to bed makes a man healthy, but socially dead

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          My dad is still among us, even though I grew up with his take on it, loosely translated:

          Early awake, early asleep. That brings health to every weeb.

          It’s possible that he already translated it from English (your dad’s saying or an unknown variation of it), and that I’ve now translated it back to English, for each translation moving a bit further away from the original meaning in order to keep it rhyming. (I wrote “weeb” to make it rhyme, my dad’s version said “boy”.)

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      There’s actually a genetic bias on it. It can be overridden, but you’ll always feel a bit burnt out from it. It also changes with age (teenagers are the latest, getting earlier as you age.

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      2 years ago

      I used to be a night owl, then I had a job that required me to get up at 5:30. It sucked for 2 weeks and now I’m a morning person.

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        I had the opposite experience a few years ago, I am very much a night owl.

        I did a job that required me in the office for 7am for a few months, I was noticeably less effective for the whole duration, I was just slower at everything and was basically constantly tired. Switched back to getting in for 9-10am and the difference was night and day, as basically I was back to my old levels of effectiveness after a day or two.

        I just think I’m one of these people that cannot adapt, or at least if I do, it comes with a cost.

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        I’m a night owl and even early morning acclimatization hasn’t helped.

        There were a few months that I had to do 12.5 hour shift work where I had to be at work at 5:30 AM and I was miserable the entire time. It’s hard to adjust when your natural cycle is like 10 am to 2 am.