Ill try to clarify my opinion. Not much turns me off more than the extreme militant political person. If your an average Joe like me, there is no reason your identity should be extremely political. If you consistently become emotional about political issues, you might need to take a step back and re-examine yourself. Its a sign that you can get led by nose and susceptible to emotional manipulation by a political agenda…
Its actually fairly simple, do you have strong political opinions? And an asshole about it? I love you as a person in general, but also f–k off. I dont want to hear you regurgitate the propaganda that you have been fed, this applies to both sides like calling me a “diet nazi.”
I do think most can agree with me that the extremely political, vocal and opinionated folks are generally insufferable A-holes. Either side.
Ive been called a communist/socialist by the conservatives i know, ive also been called a fascist by democrats/liberals and others. I haven’t picked a side, and im not going to, so im disliked by by both sides.
Everytime someone says “uhm actually, I’m a centrist” it’s code for “actually I’m squarely right wing but plz plz plz don’t hate me for it uwu”.
And he takes issue with being labeled as “diet nazi”. Like, bro, that’s what you are. You’re an enabler and useful idiot for fascists. That’s why people don’t like you.
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EDIT: fukcing LOL, he deleted his post so the link above is defunc now. That’s okay, here’s some Charlie apologia quotes from his comment history:
charlie never advocated violence. But the contrary, in fact. To solicit violence from anything he said would only come from your perceptions and bias, not what he “preached”
The divide is so deep here. If you feel some sort of hatred for charlie kirk, please, do let everyone know. We want to know if you support callus, weak, vile way that charlie kirk was murdered.
Or ya know you can also just Read His Modlog for all the bans/removals he’s gotten for: homophobia, transphobia, trolling, hate, bigotry, misinformation…
last quote, from that charlie thread he deleted:
Oh also im not a conservative, but I know thats probably hard to understand for public school kids like yourself
If your an average Joe like me, there is no reason your identity should be extremely political.
I feel like you almost discovered the concept of privilege here.
If you consistently become emotional about political issues, you might need to take a step back and re-examine yourself.
But then kind of whiffed here.
Someone’s identity as a gay person or black person should not be “political” (whatever that means. Care to define it?). But it is.
Like, it was in living memory that black people had to sit in the back of the bus, and couldn’t buy property in certain places. Women couldn’t open checking accounts of their own until like 1974. Trans people are routinely subject to hate and danger.
Why do you think people are “regurgitating propaganda” rather than describing their experiences? Why is your baseline cool and normal and theirs is “led by the nose”?
And it’s extremely lossy to compress all of politics down to “sides”. There are details. People experience and believe things. It’s not just like rooting for a baseball team (though for some people it can be, admittedly).
Ive been called a communist/socialist by the conservatives i know, ive also been called a fascist by democrats/liberals and others. I haven’t picked a side, so im disliked by by both sides.
If you run into one asshole, you ran into one asshole, if you run into assholes all day… buddy, you’re probably the asshole.
Well, I hear ya, and I dont deny sometimes its me being the asshole. But I think it mainly how divisive everything is these days. Like you can say 1 opinion and people think they know exactly who you are.
If your an average Joe like me, there is no reason your identity should be extremely political.
One of the political parties has made people’s existence extremely political. A trans person’s identity is extremely political not because they want it to be, but because other people have decided it is.
When the current political climate makes “I think everyone should have basic human rights” an ‘extremely political statement’ then there is no way to not be political unless you are a fucking monster.
I’m gonna approach this with good faith because I am assuming you are trying to. No on is immune to propoganda, you are not immune to propoganda and neither am I. Pretending political extremes are inherently and equally bad is in of itself is propoganda. Politics is an important aspect of life, it impacts a lot of people in serious ways. Invalidating that because someone is emotional about it is kinda fucked up. Like yeah a queer person is going to be emotional about politics because their identity is under attack due to politics. Many aspects of life are political, things that people are often times passionate about or otherwise deeply impact them.
Secondly leftist, like myself, believe what we believe because the current status quo is unfair and hurting people. We are striving to make the world a more free and fair place. So yeah, when someone says they are a centrist (which effectively means supporting the status quo), then that is to us opposing progress to a more free and fair society. To us it is saying that the people harmed by the status quo are either not real, don’t matter, or that that harm is a good thing.
I aint gonna say every leftist is built the same. There are a lot with very harmful beliefs. But you are lumping everyone together cause you feel their politics are too extreme and erasing all the nuance. And also lumping us in with groups that we hate and have completely different goals, morals, etc. Fascists and communists are not the same just because they are both extreme. Do some communists really blur that line? Yeah, they are called tankies and I fucking hate them.
This is all to say, shitting on people for simply having extreme politics is erasing a lot of nuance and in of itself is propoganda to help support the status quo.
Edit: nvm dude’s a nazi chud pretending to be a centrist. Fucking coward
They try to appeal as though they’re being civil and fair, but it’s just a deception, every time. Right out of the nazi playbook. I don’t think I’ve ever met a person who called themselves a “centrist” who wasn’t actually, a fucking nazi, but too much of a pussy to admit it.
Thank you, I appreciate that thoughtful response. You’re on point in a few places. Like yes, politics are an important part of life and I shouldnt invalidate someone’s emotions about them… you put me in my place there, I concede. And maybe im not even centrist. I might be a libertarian.
Im not even who you assume me to be. But its ok. Im not worried about it
Ill try to clarify my opinion. Not much turns me off more than the extreme militant political person. If your an average Joe like me, there is no reason your identity should be extremely political. If you consistently become emotional about political issues, you might need to take a step back and re-examine yourself. Its a sign that you can get led by nose and susceptible to emotional manipulation by a political agenda…
Its actually fairly simple, do you have strong political opinions? And an asshole about it? I love you as a person in general, but also f–k off. I dont want to hear you regurgitate the propaganda that you have been fed, this applies to both sides like calling me a “diet nazi.”
I do think most can agree with me that the extremely political, vocal and opinionated folks are generally insufferable A-holes. Either side.
Ive been called a communist/socialist by the conservatives i know, ive also been called a fascist by democrats/liberals and others. I haven’t picked a side, and im not going to, so im disliked by by both sides.
If you don’t experience any oppression then I guess it’s quite easy to say politics don’t matter.
Quickly looking at your past comments it’s easy to see why nobody likes you.
lol, you’re not kidding.
Shocking no one… guy says he’s a centrist… four days ago he’s crying over and supporting Charlie Fucking Kirk.
Everytime someone says “uhm actually, I’m a centrist” it’s code for “actually I’m squarely right wing but plz plz plz don’t hate me for it uwu”.
And he takes issue with being labeled as “diet nazi”. Like, bro, that’s what you are. You’re an enabler and useful idiot for fascists. That’s why people don’t like you.
______________________________EDIT: fukcing LOL, he deleted his post so the link above is defunc now. That’s okay, here’s some Charlie apologia quotes from his comment history:
Or ya know you can also just Read His Modlog for all the bans/removals he’s gotten for: homophobia, transphobia, trolling, hate, bigotry, misinformation…
last quote, from that charlie thread he deleted:
“CeNtRiSt”
I feel like you almost discovered the concept of privilege here.
But then kind of whiffed here.
Someone’s identity as a gay person or black person should not be “political” (whatever that means. Care to define it?). But it is.
Like, it was in living memory that black people had to sit in the back of the bus, and couldn’t buy property in certain places. Women couldn’t open checking accounts of their own until like 1974. Trans people are routinely subject to hate and danger.
Why do you think people are “regurgitating propaganda” rather than describing their experiences? Why is your baseline cool and normal and theirs is “led by the nose”?
And it’s extremely lossy to compress all of politics down to “sides”. There are details. People experience and believe things. It’s not just like rooting for a baseball team (though for some people it can be, admittedly).
Emotions are unfortunately tied to certain political issues, thats the way it is. Some things’ll never change! Ah, but dont you believe them.
Well, they do both. But its easy to recognize the propaganda when its regurgitated because its usually the same words or phrases used.
Does that mean the topics that elicit emotions are invalid? What does it mean?
If you run into one asshole, you ran into one asshole, if you run into assholes all day… buddy, you’re probably the asshole.
Well, I hear ya, and I dont deny sometimes its me being the asshole. But I think it mainly how divisive everything is these days. Like you can say 1 opinion and people think they know exactly who you are.
Judging by what I’ve seen of your opinions so far maybe they’re not wrong?
It’s all very subjective. Believe what rings true
One of the political parties has made people’s existence extremely political. A trans person’s identity is extremely political not because they want it to be, but because other people have decided it is.
When the current political climate makes “I think everyone should have basic human rights” an ‘extremely political statement’ then there is no way to not be political unless you are a fucking monster.
I’m gonna approach this with good faith because I am assuming you are trying to. No on is immune to propoganda, you are not immune to propoganda and neither am I. Pretending political extremes are inherently and equally bad is in of itself is propoganda. Politics is an important aspect of life, it impacts a lot of people in serious ways. Invalidating that because someone is emotional about it is kinda fucked up. Like yeah a queer person is going to be emotional about politics because their identity is under attack due to politics. Many aspects of life are political, things that people are often times passionate about or otherwise deeply impact them.
Secondly leftist, like myself, believe what we believe because the current status quo is unfair and hurting people. We are striving to make the world a more free and fair place. So yeah, when someone says they are a centrist (which effectively means supporting the status quo), then that is to us opposing progress to a more free and fair society. To us it is saying that the people harmed by the status quo are either not real, don’t matter, or that that harm is a good thing.
I aint gonna say every leftist is built the same. There are a lot with very harmful beliefs. But you are lumping everyone together cause you feel their politics are too extreme and erasing all the nuance. And also lumping us in with groups that we hate and have completely different goals, morals, etc. Fascists and communists are not the same just because they are both extreme. Do some communists really blur that line? Yeah, they are called tankies and I fucking hate them.
This is all to say, shitting on people for simply having extreme politics is erasing a lot of nuance and in of itself is propoganda to help support the status quo.
Edit: nvm dude’s a nazi chud pretending to be a centrist. Fucking coward
Good write up. Unfortunately, it’s pearls before swine.
Dudes a winger, Charlie Kirk supporting incel type.
And theres the other issue with identifying as centrist. Nazis keep using it as a way to hide the fact they are nazis
yup… they always do.
They try to appeal as though they’re being civil and fair, but it’s just a deception, every time. Right out of the nazi playbook. I don’t think I’ve ever met a person who called themselves a “centrist” who wasn’t actually, a fucking nazi, but too much of a pussy to admit it.
Yeah I’m giving up on giving people the benefit of the doubt when they say they are a centrist
Edit: they always want to idolize macho men and shit like that yet they are such cowards they gotta slither around and hide. Hypocrites and cowards
Thank you, I appreciate that thoughtful response. You’re on point in a few places. Like yes, politics are an important part of life and I shouldnt invalidate someone’s emotions about them… you put me in my place there, I concede. And maybe im not even centrist. I might be a libertarian.
Im not even who you assume me to be. But its ok. Im not worried about it
So you agree then? “diet nazi”. Fucking called it.
No point in arguing with extremists at either end. None of them have a life.