• groet@feddit.org
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      I’m sorry but I will put some distrust on numbers coming out of China, especially for big infrastructure projects. They could very well be true but still unobtainable in any country that considers environmental or worker protections. Its a lot cheaper to build big projects when you can simply disregard a lot of the impact.

      IF the numbers are true and obtainable without violating human rights that would still only put nuclear on par with solar. Not cheaper. And the same logic that is written in the article the image is from would also apply to solar panels.

      … state-owned nuclear developers receive cheap government-backed loans to build new reactors …

      … government also requires electric grid operators to buy some of the power from nuclear plants at favorable rates.

      … national mandate to expand nuclear power means that companies can confidently invest in domestic factories …

      Do these things with solar and see the prices half immediately which would put them way below the Chinese cost per Watt again. As I said before: without government subsidies nuclear can not compete with solar and wind.

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        I’m sorry but I will put some distrust on numbers coming out of China

        Sure, ignore the energetic policy of the producer of 95% of photovoltaic panels and greatest investor and developer of electric mobility.

        any country that considers environmental or worker protections

        Surely China being the world’s leading producer of photovoltaics and wind is because le evil gynese govment doesn’t care about climate.

        IF the numbers are true and obtainable without violating human rights

        China doesnt have slave labour, unlike the USA. As a developing nation, worker rights are developing, but they’re doing so positively. In the west worker rights are actually decreasing.

        As for solar, I’m a huge photovoltaics nerd, and yes, all the policy you listed has been applied by the Chinese government to solar energy too, to the benefit of the entire humanity. In my area, you can buy 5kWp worth of solar panels for 700€, which is nothing short of a miracle. Solar and wind are also extremely subsidized, and that’s a good thing. I want a renewable + nuclear subsidized energy mix, and if the government with most solar and most wind is also the one investing most in nuclear, that tells me I’m on the right track.

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          6 hours ago

          Chinese government: Blatantly lies about any and everything.

          Everyone else: …

          Absolutely everyone: …

          Chinese government: THESE ARE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS AND UNFRIENDLY PROPAGANDA!