You’re probably talking about Gulags. GULAG was the prison system of the USSS, with its primary intent being reform of criminals. The vast majority of GULAG prisoners weren’t political, as has transpired from modern historiography and analysis of the Soviet Archives. The only moment of history in which the GULAG system had a high mortality, was during the famine caused by Nazi invasion of the USSR, invasion in which 25 million Soviet lives were extinguished in the struggle against fascism. Before, and after the invasion, mortality rates went down to being much lower.
Talking of the GULAG system as of concentration camps just shows that you have done no research on the topic, which is shameful as a leftist. Socialism must be well-informed and materialist, not vibes-based. There is criticism that can be made of socialism, but it has to be grounded on reality if we want it to be effective, not grounded on CIA propaganda.
Lol@ following up your feigned outrage at trivializing tragedy with a flippant request for your political opponents to die in concentration camps, you’ve discredited yourself better than I could have ever hoped to
If it’s mine in any meaningful way then you’ll be put in a reeducation camp, you’re clearly not ideologically committed/coherent enough to justify execution, and I think you could still contribute to society and lead a decent quality life once you’ve got your head on straight
You have literally never spoken to an oppressed person if you disregard reeducation camps. Go ask a leftist black person what they would believe about compulsory history lessons on racism and colonialism for white adults.
Yes, reeducation is a good thing for people who have been indoctrinated in ways that motivate them to subjugate and kill innocent people, your reaction to such a statement of obvious fact is the direct result of similar indoctrination. The “culture” of the US is a superficially secular imperial cult that teaches its’ adherents that it’s okay to invade and overthrow governments who don’t do what you say, that people who are homeless and starving deserve it, that anyone who disagrees is an enemy. You are a dangerous zealot.
you do realize your entire argument is that it is OKAY to subjugate and murder people, inherently violent acts, as long as it is under the guise of “reeducation”? and you want to treat it as a joke…
Fascism isn’t a joke. It isn’t something to take lightly. It’s fucked up and anybody supporting it is fucked up. You’re fucked up.
You cannot debate the merit of anything without invoking the US. The morality of concentration camps does not change depending on what countries exist at what time and what place.
You cannot hand wave away arguments against concentration camps. just because you don’t like the US. And you won’t because you DO support concentration camps! Just ones for people you don’t like. You’re xenophobic and you support imprisoning people based on their nationality.
You don’t want to do good. You want to do bad and you see it justified to do bad because others have also done bad. That is not and has never been a valid excuse.
Hilarious. Trivialize some real life tragic shit. You sound like a great person. Get deleted in a concentration camp for me.
You’re probably talking about Gulags. GULAG was the prison system of the USSS, with its primary intent being reform of criminals. The vast majority of GULAG prisoners weren’t political, as has transpired from modern historiography and analysis of the Soviet Archives. The only moment of history in which the GULAG system had a high mortality, was during the famine caused by Nazi invasion of the USSR, invasion in which 25 million Soviet lives were extinguished in the struggle against fascism. Before, and after the invasion, mortality rates went down to being much lower.
Talking of the GULAG system as of concentration camps just shows that you have done no research on the topic, which is shameful as a leftist. Socialism must be well-informed and materialist, not vibes-based. There is criticism that can be made of socialism, but it has to be grounded on reality if we want it to be effective, not grounded on CIA propaganda.
Average “anti-authoritarian” when presented with actual left wing views.
I’m not making or endorsing them. I just think if you’re going to make them then you deserve to be in one.
Lol@ following up your feigned outrage at trivializing tragedy with a flippant request for your political opponents to die in concentration camps, you’ve discredited yourself better than I could have ever hoped to
It’s your concentration camp, not mine. I’m just asking that you get everything you ever asked for. I care about you ♥️
If it’s mine in any meaningful way then you’ll be put in a reeducation camp, you’re clearly not ideologically committed/coherent enough to justify execution, and I think you could still contribute to society and lead a decent quality life once you’ve got your head on straight
this guy defending reeducation camps. Lemmy be wild
You have literally never spoken to an oppressed person if you disregard reeducation camps. Go ask a leftist black person what they would believe about compulsory history lessons on racism and colonialism for white adults.
Yes, reeducation is a good thing for people who have been indoctrinated in ways that motivate them to subjugate and kill innocent people, your reaction to such a statement of obvious fact is the direct result of similar indoctrination. The “culture” of the US is a superficially secular imperial cult that teaches its’ adherents that it’s okay to invade and overthrow governments who don’t do what you say, that people who are homeless and starving deserve it, that anyone who disagrees is an enemy. You are a dangerous zealot.
what the dick the US have to do with this?
Reeducation camps not being morally indefensible because the US exists is one hell of an argument.
There truly is real evil in this world.
Lol @ calling the concept of rehabilitation for violent ideologues “morally indefensible”, maybe I was wrong about there being any hope for you
you do realize your entire argument is that it is OKAY to subjugate and murder people, inherently violent acts, as long as it is under the guise of “reeducation”? and you want to treat it as a joke…
Fascism isn’t a joke. It isn’t something to take lightly. It’s fucked up and anybody supporting it is fucked up. You’re fucked up.
You cannot debate the merit of anything without invoking the US. The morality of concentration camps does not change depending on what countries exist at what time and what place.
You cannot hand wave away arguments against concentration camps. just because you don’t like the US. And you won’t because you DO support concentration camps! Just ones for people you don’t like. You’re xenophobic and you support imprisoning people based on their nationality.
You don’t want to do good. You want to do bad and you see it justified to do bad because others have also done bad. That is not and has never been a valid excuse.
Concentration camps are wrong. Full stop.