EU stops advertising on X over hate speech. Fines could follow next year::The European Union is pulling its advertisements from Elon Musk’s X for now, citing an “alarming increase” in hate speech and disinformation on the platform formerly known as Twitter.

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    This comment will make me sound like an idiot, but I’m just coming to believe that all of Musk’s decisions with X were targeted to this very outcome. To be the world’s centre of alt right propaganda. It just makes too much sense now.

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      He’s not that smart. He got stuck having to buy Twitter after his pump and dump backfired. His solution to having to buy Twitter was to cut costs by firing staff and use his celebrity to manufacturer engagement with troll posts.

      The problem he missed was that staff was necessary to keep hate speech under control and his trolling meant to drive engagement would backfire from advertisers and regulators.

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      I wouldn’t say idiot, just very naive when it comes to your assessment of Musk’s ability to think ahead. He’s basically a South African Alex Jones who started out rich(er) 🤷

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      I think it’s not impossible that the goal was simply to discredit Twitter entirely

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      You’d be right. 10 days before he bought it, Musk got linked a plan to buy twitter and turn it into right-wing American WeChat.

      I heard about it on Rachel Maddow’s October 2 show (has it really been 2 months since then?)

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      Not sure why you’d assume you sound like an idiot. You’re just coming to a hypothesis based on all available information. It seems like a sane train of reasoning based on all the empirical evidence we’ve seen thus far.

      It’s likely that he didn’t mean for it to happen the way it did, or that he hoped there’s a bigger appetite or marketplace for X in this capacity. It’s also possible he didn’t think it all through as was made more likely by the way he was trying to come up with reasons to get out of the deal.

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      He’s just a stupid narcissist that came into money. They don’t think that far ahead, and it makes him look bad so he wouldn’t want this outcome

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    Elon was mulling pulling out of the EU and I really want this dumbass to follow through on that threat.

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    I feel like the EU is one of the few forces of good in the world these days.

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      It is not. But it has been doing some right things when it comes to privacy protection and so on.

      Still, Trump’s border wall and caged children are merely cute compared to the shit going on at the borders of the EU.

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      Until you find out it lets Muslim immigrants (80% of whom prefer sharia law over eu law) take over entire towns & countries.

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          Which port town? Rotterdam, Marseille, Barcelona, etc

          Because countries arnt yet at that level.

          30-40% of babies born are non European decent.

          I’m not even saying that’s a bad thing. But ANYONE THAT PREFERS SHARIA LAW OVER EUROPEAN (OR RESPECTIVE COUNTRY’S) LAW, should NOT be in Europe.

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            Thinking that any political opinions are fundamentally “Non-European” is a fundamentally totalitarian and racist mindset. I reject your attempts at gatekeeping my politics based on your arbitrary and chauvinistic ideas of “European” values. But hey, there is nothing more inherently European than racism, so I guess you’re living up to your own ideals there.

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              I specifically mentioned EUROPEAN LAW vs SHARIA LAW and the fact that 80% of European Muslims prefer the latter.

              THAT’S A FACTUAL STATEMENT FROM A LARGE PUBLIC INQ.

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              Sorry, this is true if you include countries like Poland and Hungary.

              IT ISN’T TRUE IF YOU LOOK AT PORT CITIES. and small towns can be overrun within a week

              Ps MY BEST FRIENDS ARE (PROGRESSIVE) MUSLIMS. nothing against them! But adding even more immigrants that aren’t educated nor socially connected to ANY European thing isn’t good… They aren’t like the Mexicans…

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              We’re not idiotic Americans. Of the native population, only a small percentage wants church rule

      • thriveth@lemmy.world
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        Can you mention some of all of these alleged “Sharia controlled” towns and, eh, countries?

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          That is not at all what I said. I said the mayority of Muslims in Europe prefer sharia law. You are CHANGING my words. That sick fundy behavior.

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            Your unchanged words:

            Until you find out it [the EU] lets Muslim immigrants (80% of whom prefer sharia law over eu law) take over entire towns & countries.

            Provide examples then. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and the burden of providing such evidence is on the claimant and no one else.

            And surely if you have a numeric figure like 80% for the proportion of Muslim immigrants in the EU who supposedly prefer sharia law, you can cite the source in which the statistic came from, and the source will list their data collection and analysis methodology which will also surely be logically and mathematically sound, right? Riiiiight?

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        Twitter is filled with idiots who’ll pronounce London/Paris/wherever is under Sharia law. Never seems to occur to them that this is very easy to fact check.

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          I definitely did not say that they were under sharia law. I made several factual statements. But ALL of you manage to Twist my words. Sick rethoric!

          • arc@lemm.ee
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            Nah you tried to imply something not born out by reality and got downvoted for it.

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              Read my original words. It says 80% of Muslims in Europe would prefer sharia vs euro law.

              That’s the result of a large scale double blind inquiry. It’s not implying anything it’s just reality.

              Ps i actually like Muslims. More as insane xtians… At least they don’t twist and change their books words every few years…

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                80% of christians would prefer christian law over any government law. So would Jews. Both have committed mass genocides to reach that goal.

                Now what was your point?

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        I love how fascists always blame the victims for the problems that fascists caused.

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    Is Elon Musk finally in the ‘find out’ stage of this whole fiasco?

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        No, actually I don’t. Everytime it cracks me the fuck up, almost like Elon Musk’s clown act.

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          Might want to check out Thunderf00t then.

          He’s building an anthology of musk’s fuck-ups. It’s pretty hilarious.

    • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world
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      a fine is unlikely until next year as each of the EU’s 27 member states first needs to appoint national “digital services coordinators” — with the power to impose penalties — by February 17. So far, only two states, Italy and Hungary, have done so, a commission spokesperson told CNN.

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    I mean all social media has hate speech of one kind of another and it’s almost all misinformation or part truths. Really depends on the agenda.

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    I get, and approve of, ending your sponsorship via ads. But I don’t think legal recourse should be rewarded.

    Any business transaction has risk. If you decide to advertise on Superbowl, you’re putting your chips on NFL.

    If you’re advertising on Twitter, after the Musk purchase, your money is on Musk and Twitters staff to continue the value. If Musk says stupid shit that devalues your investment… well, that’s on you for putting your money on it, and not exercising your exit clause a year ago.

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      It’s two separate things, from the article:

      A more drastic move could come next year. The European Commission, the bloc’s executive arm, could impose a fine of more than $100 million on X if the company is found to have breached tough new EU rules aimed at cleaning up digital media.