• CannonFodder@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    I’m not arguing for the sake of the democrat politicians, but for the sake of the country. It’s not a matter of supporting a team, but choosing which politician of the viable options is better. ‘Team’ support is when you vote against your own interest because of a historical affiliation. Dems are better so voting for them is logical. I understand you feel the democrats aren’t good enough and you think if they don’t get enough votes, they’ll change to be more progressive, but unfortunately that’s not likely to work. Furthermore it gets us trump and other rightwing assholes in power for another four years - and that’s really bad. It’s on you if you don’t vote for the better option.

    • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
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      13 hours ago

      It’s not a matter of supporting a team, but choosing which politician of the viable options is better. ‘Team’ support is when you vote against your own interest because of a historical affiliation.

      You don’t see how drastically you’re contradicting yourself here? What makes any candidate that isn’t a Republican or Democrat “unviable” in your eyes other than historical affiliation? It’s not illegal for them to be on the ballots and it’s not illegal to vote for them, so the only way for you to consider them unviable is that they aren’t affiliated with the party you vote for historically. It’s not about First Past the Post or the two-party system you’re desperately trying to protect here. Those are both artificial constructs that only exist because people like yourself keep them in existance. Democrats have proven themselves to be unviable considering they keep losing elections allowing Republicans to seize control of every branch of government, so what exactly is the downside to kicking them all to the curb where they belong?

      You’re literally arguing that Democrats will never improve, yet we should vote for them anyway because that will somehow ‘stop’ the Republican party from existing. I’d love it if you could expand this belief out and outline how things will ever improve by continuing to support the very people who’ve brought us to this point and rejecting everything and everyone that hasn’t. You claim you’re arguing for the sake of the country, yet your argument is that we should continue to do the same thing over and over while also arguing that nothing will change or improve by doing so.

      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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        9 hours ago

        Democrats win or lose by a handful of votes which is the same as what third parties get.

        In the presidential election last year if you added all of the democrat’s votes to the leading third party candidate they still would have lost.

        I’d say a third party is the political equivalent of a wet fart but a wet fart actually accomplishes more.

        • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works
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          7 hours ago

          What exactly have the Democrats accomplished other than giving Republicans power over every branch of government and giving them everything they want at every opportunity?

          Also what logic is there in saying that you won’t vote third party because third parties don’t get enough votes? You’d rather back someone supporting something as extreme as genocide while still losing and walk away thinking you made the right choice? I can see you specifically doing this after our other interaction that you’ve probably followed me over here from, but a rational person should know better.