• Dojan@lemmy.world
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      Like, I don’t know enough about this BS to argue, so I’m just going to believe what you’re saying, but what’s the point?

      NASA put people on the moon 54 years ago. Musk has said he’d do it several times now, but he’s not there yet.

      He’s also said that he’ll make space travel super cheap, yet his launches cost more than the Russian Soyuz ones used to.

      They’ve gotten nowhere near the moon, and Russia does launches cheaper with their WWII tech than Musk does with his cutting edge stuff. So to me it just looks like they’re burning money for funsies.

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        No it’s not…not at all…

        https://marspedia.org/Financial_effort_estimation

        Falcon is very successful. On top of that it allows the US and EU to stop providing money to RU for it’s war crimes

        Space travel is needed, right now we’re just on big rock away from being a short timeline in the history of the world.

        One reason SpaceX is so successful is because of the red tape that’s been removed that NASA had to deal with, getting to the moon isn’t the end goal, it’s just a platform to use as a layover for other travel.

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          Yeah musk has little to do with SpaceX success besides just being the money man.

          I fully support SpaceX and want them to succeed. I just want musk to be forcibly ejected and the company to be run and managed by more competent and ethical people because it’s obvious from his efforts at Twitter that he has no business running a company, much less one that has real and constant possibilities of bad management meaning the loss of human life.

          I feel the same way about Tesla, but Tesla to me is no longer about moving the human race forward. There are better competitors to Tesla, and now that EVs are mainstream, the trash build quality of those vehicles should mean the company should die or be absorbed.

          But also I just watched AI ethics die in 48 hours so that rich people could make more money, so fuck me I guess.

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          Nothing we’re doing is going to prevent “one big rock” from changing life on earth. And there’s a solutely no possibility of moving humanity anywhere else. Science fiction isn’t a reason to support nonsense.

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            Wow…you would have been that guy in a cave that said this is fine, no need to go outside.

            You have to start somewhere

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              This is a foolish response. We aren’t going to live anywhere but this planet, and only a moron thinks humanity is leaving this planet. Truly stupid shit, spoon fed to the incredulous by a billionaire dipshit and a century of science FICTION stories.

              Back to the Zubrin books for you.

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      lmao

      Hot staging didn’t hot stage, flight termination failed again, it didn’t reach its target altitude, a bunch of engines flamed out unexpectedly again.

      That’s not a success. Not exploding on the pad doesn’t make it a success. Stop believing the YouTube simps.

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      Massive success in the interest of science, in the sense that we can learn form our failures? Fine, it’s odd phrasing for a multi-billion dollar corp whose sole aim is to make money by cornering a not-yet existent market.

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        1. NASA already exists. Feed and house the poor instead, save the planet from greenhouse gases, help create new expensive policies to curb addiction and homelessness. Anything except literally burning money into our atmosphere. What the fuck are landing pads and propulsion guidance systems going to do for the entire planet.

        2. I don’t have to prove why you’re wrong I just don’t have to agree with you.

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            … You don’t realize that commercial entities have always built space craft for the government, so nothing you’re saying has any credibility. You should probably know something about the topic before arguing about it.

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          “NASA already exists” if his team is doing something never done before and very helpful, that is evidence for the necessity of other space companies besides NASA.

          Edit: just so we’re clear, I don’t give two shits about Elaine Mosk.

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            Listen muskrat, who is this helping? Are we delivering cargo to mulvonites in sector 9?

            There is no need to be pursuing this science right now when there is more concerning shit like not having a planet to live on in the next 60 years because we made it a bit too hot.

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                You need to provide counterpoints for why their comment on why space tech is unneccesary in saving the planet, otherwise people will think that you have either nothing to say, or worse still, that you think living in space is an achievable reality for your descendants (no, they won’t be part of the super rich elite)

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            NASA isn’t a company, and they’ve always paid contractors to make their vehicles. Crucially, noone is doing anything that hasn’t been done before.