Hi, I am not exactly sure how best to frame this, but recent events have got me wondering where exactly Framework, as a company, stands with regards to human rights and equality. If I understand correctly (and please do correct me if I am wrong), it seems like Framework has started sponsoring Hyprland: So I presume this is fact: Framework, as a company, has decided to sponsor a Wayland compositor who is well known to be led as a rather “toxic and hateful community”. Separately, but on the ...

Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @[email protected] (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I’m disappointed in framework’s answer so far

  • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
    30·
    15 hours ago

    i do want to point out how hard it is to even find out about the views of these people, if you just look up the names of the projects and aren’t specifically looking for this information there’s no way you’ll find anything about it

    even looking up the name of David Heinemeier Hansson, the more vocally bad of these, i had to go to the 5th link to find anything even vaguely mentioning his views

    • teolan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      91·
      6 hours ago

      It’s pretty plain on DHH’s blog:

      In 2000, more than sixty percent of the city were native Brits. By 2024, that had dropped to about a third. A statistic as evident as day when you walk the streets of London now.

      I wonder what characteristic he uses to define « native brits » that can be seen when walking.

      Or just take a look at his twitter. Which Framework obviously did since they retweet a lot of his posts…

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      16·
      14 hours ago

      Isn’t that a good thing?

      I don’t know about you, but I don’t really care what the views of the owners of a business are. It only becomes a problem if they make those views plain.

      • bss03@infosec.pubEnglish
        2·
        36 minutes ago

        I very much care about the view of business owners are; it’s how I decide to where my “vote” goes when I “vote with my wallet” as I’ve frequently told to do my Capitalism supporters.

      • balance8873@lemmy.myserv.oneEnglish
        4·
        7 hours ago

        Wow I guess if you have to scroll all the way to the fifth whole link it can’t possibly be plain, can it?

        Sure the business owner thinks anyone who isn’t white doesn’t count as a person, but he only uses the resources you give him to promote that point of view as a hobby, so why worry?

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          11·
          2 hours ago

          I don’t know, was it a personal blog, some social media post, or a page on the company’s website? You didn’t specify, and I honestly don’t care enough to try to replicate your search.

          If they’re able to separate personal views from how they run their company, it shouldn’t really matter what those views are.

      • AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        13 hours ago

        Well, I guess he has tried to make his views fairly plain on his blog. it’s just a bit hard to find unless you’re looking for it

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          11·
          2 hours ago

          Were the views associated with the company? Or was it purely a personal blog?

          The distinction matters. Many people are able to separate business from politics, but some are not. The former aren’t a concern, the latter definitely are.