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At least this indicates the missing people from Alligator Alcatraz are alive. And isn’t that a sentence I would very much like to never, ever say again.
MONKEY’S PAW CURLS
…Ugh. This is FUBAR. 😨
notice how they’re sending these planes to countries that barely have an airforce to chase them the fuck away with.
they’re sending them to places where the local governments wouldnt dare protest.
What’s the point if they can’t reference the numbers to their cult?
The fact that people aren’t protesting this shit in the streets is a sign that this country is dead
They are lol the media is just ignoring it
People are, stop checking to see if the public is fighting or not through corporate news mediums that have a stake in making you feel like nobody is protesting…
Most the major news in the US is run by republican loyalists. People are protesting all this but the cameras are all pointed Charlie Kook’s memorial.
amazing how well that worked out, isnt it?
All attention on the latest outrage, distracting from the latest evil.
No war but the class war.
A sign that people don’t think they have a way to fight. We don’t have any leadership, fighting under the Democrats is a waste of time that sticks your neck out without accomplishing anything. You get some real leadership and you will get fight. Until you get rid of these Democrats that see themselves as controlled opposition this is what you will get.
Join an ice out of x or 50501 group near you. Major political parties only cause change when they’re forced to with the ire of the general public. Should read the book “this is an uprising” by mark engler
Not to mention the people who agree with this.
There are big protests in the places they’re doing the most aggressive racial profiling. It just doesnt make the national news. See this for example
Reverend Black chanting “God damn you!” after taking pepperballs to the face goes kinda hard
https://bsky.app/profile/unraveledpress.com/post/3lza2bo2k3c2f
Portland’s revoke the permit group (ice buildings’ conditional land use permit for private property) is causing such a comotion that the mayor has publically started talking about it and they’re on track to revoke the building permit. Just had to shut down a couple of his meetups to get him to pay attention.
The military flights cost up to $28k an hour, but it’s OK, he’s putting this all on your national debt, his giant credit card.
he increased the defense budget to nearly 1trillion.
Here is the thing I don’t understand, Fuck Trump but also as a leftist I think it is a great step of honesty to rename the Department of Defense to the Department of War. I mean, yes Trump is doing it because he WANTS to embrace the military industrial complex even more but that doesn’t change the fact that the name change fits the department a lot better than the old name shrugs.
Oh yeah, it’s less hypocritical.
But perhaps we’d rather it was named and acted like DoD, instead of being named DoD and acting like DoW.
I agree I guess I just feel like naming something a better name mostly just gives liberals and centrists the license to stop paying attention and assume things are great, so yes you are right but I genuinely think the stupidness of this move is ironically productive towards getting the average person in the US to think skeptically to some degree about the military industrial complex’s motivations and how they relate to our wellbeing…
The department of war is a nickname.
You should prolly read the article.
A person sent to a country they didn’t come from isn’t “deportation”. It’s trafficking.
Its Cruel. And its Unusual.
But our courts now are so fucked that the lawyers will argue while it is cruel, it is not unusual because we are doing it all the time so therefore both of the terms of cruel and unusual aren’t met and the court has no business stepping in the way of our legitimate executive Authority.
Disallowing courts from Nationwide injunctions was a huge decision that is not recognized as such yet, that shows you where the Supreme Court is going to allow this to go, straight into the abyss. They think the Republic is already dead and all but name.
Unfortunately, cruelty is the point in fascism
You know, the Nazis did the same with wasting valuable military resources transporting considered undesirables to be imprisoned and killed, even though they were in the middle of a war, and the logistics were badly needed to transport supply and reinforcements to the front lines. I always say fascists will always fall because they are running on emotions. So much for “facts don’t care about feelings” from MAGAts.
This isn’t really true. Generally, the Nazis were running trains eastward with supplies for their troops in Russia. The trains filled with victims for the camps would have otherwise returned empty. The same logistical situation is why so many POWs captured by the Allies in Europe and North Africa were brought back to the United States for incarceration.
As far as the expense of the Holocaust was concerned, the death camp Treblinka is pretty instructive. Treblinka operated for a period of 18 months, during which approximately 900,000 people were killed by the exhaust from a single salvaged tank engine. The camp was staffed at any one time by about 25 German officers and soldiers and 100 local civilian workers. Treblinka was an utterly trivial fraction of Germany’s overall war effort, and yet it killed a million people.
The difference though is that the Allies could spare more resources, while the Axis can’t. German rail lines also keep getting sabotaged and the blockade and air bombing kept the resources to fix them being disrupted or destroyed. The Allies didn’t have such issues on their end. The German trains coming from the Eastern front could have loaded up more wounded but even so, I imagine they would have more limited available train freight because of destruction.
The anti-partisan action by the Axis also took up so much manpower that could have otherwise gone to the frontline. Not to mention that the very same people the Germans killed, could have been soldiers themselves on the side of the Axis. Many Ukrainians welcomed the Nazis as liberators and could have helped the Nazis against the Soviet Union, but of course, the Nazis had a different idea. Mussolini’s fascism was mild compared to the Nazis, and he was right that the Hitler’s obsession on race is a waste of time and resources.
Once America got involved it was over for Germany. There is no scenario where Germany could have won with the US involved. Just fighting France and England and Russia they absolutely would have won. Could have anyway. How many people did the Russians sacrifice to get rid of the Germans, 17 million? Guys behind the lines to shoot anybody that Retreats from their position for any reason.
Guys behind the lines to shoot anybody that Retreats from their position for any reason.
That’s not what the purpose of blocking brigades was. Casualty rates were roughly similar between Germany and the USSR, if you don’t include civilians.
There’s a lot of fictions made up by nazis about the eastern front that western historians took seriously until the Soviet archives from the time were made public, that we still see in Hollywood and pop culture, like machine-gunning their own troops, sending soldiers without weapons, and human-wave “tactics”.
That is not a piece of history that has ever been up for debate that I have seen, nor one that the Soviets have tried to hide or Russians have tried to deny. It was trotsky’s idea, and in the Ukraine war they may have dusted it off to some degree.
So I don’t know where you are getting that from but they absolutely were known for shooting anybody that retreated from their position no matter what the circumstance. They lost 17 million people.
Why not the wikipedia article? It cites statistics and primary sources.
Their job was to gather troops from shattered divisions so they could be reformed, and arrest ones who were refusing to fight so they could be tried later.
Or the hundreds of history books it is written in, I don’t know what your recent iteration of Wikipedia says, But that has been the history, you are the first person I have ever heard challenging it. If that is something that you got off of a recent Wikipedia edit, I would not be surprised there is some new form of revisionism going on.
The same logistical situation is why so many POWs captured by the Allies in Europe and North Africa were brought back to the United States
Well, that and the fact that it completely takes them out of the theater of war. They’re not going to be rescued and released from a camp in the middle of Montana.
And even if a few do escape, they’re a few days walk from anywhere, and will stick out like a sore thumb if they did encounter a local.
Now that MAGAts have set the precedent. I look forward to dumping MAGAts there when It is our turn to govern.
Sending them directly to hell would be faster, cheaper, and allow the living to not have MAGATs for neighbors.
That ship sailed back in November.
Nope, they’re counting on you to give up. They would not be trying to gerrymander mid election to make up for their policy.
And they’re running off of 2024 election results to carve up the new districts, but the discontent is growing even among some of their own base. Stay the course and keep fighting this.
That’s a cute fantasy of yours.
lol fascists on both sides, just different label for the enemy.
So when did music magazine rolling stone become one of the more reliable sources of non music news in this country? I’m seriously asking cause it’s really strange to me. Good, but strange
A little bit before Teen Vogue became a hard hitting investigative and political media outlet.
… I genuinely can’t tell if you’re fucking with me
No! Teen Vogue is actually awesome reporting!
Since at least Hunter S. Thompson
Always. They started out as rock n roll, which was counter-culture in its time. Rock often still is. They’ve always covered more than just music.
It’s been decades now. Their in-depth reporting during the Bush II administration was leagues better than most mainstream news outlets.
They’ve had political contributors for a long time. Iirc even Hunter S Thompson contributed some political writings, sprinkled between his more sports-centric articles, to Rolling Stone.
Agree. I learned how good rolling stone is from lemmy. Wish I found out earlier.
Wow so brave. Buy a rifle and learn how to use it, memes aren’t revolution.
Wow, so brave. Telling someone to “but a rifle” online.
Wow, you found a typo. Very good counter argument.
Slaves.
Don’t kid yourself these people are being sold as slaves. That’s why they’re being sent to these countries. We are selling slaves.
Americans transporting slaves to Ghana. What sort of hack fraud wrote this
Qatari royalty gave Kushner 2 billion to manage. He’s on their payroll. This is part of what they’re getting.
I think it was the Saudis that gave Kush 2 bil… Unless Qatar did it too
It’s both.
Jared Kushner Says $1.5Bn From Qatar, UAE Came ‘Irrespect… - Newsweek https://share.google/2zAhpoxNqCH8FMo5p
Kushner’s Affinity’s assets jump to $4.8 billion after Gulf cash injection | Reuters https://share.google/FBQZDIibaYMjZJ4Yg
This is murder with extra steps. The genocide has already started. I genuinely thought we had more time before it started…
Everyone for the past 8 years have been saying “The shit is right around the fucking corner! Please, get ready for it, so we can fight back when it does arrive!”
Jan 6th was the Beer Hall Putsch. And those telling everyone this, and explaining the historical context and lessons were met with derisive remarks. We also warned the Dems that pushing Biden, and then Harris, into the running for POTUS was a dangerous move, and prone to failing. Then, we were accused of “helping Trump”.
Like, the knowledge of how close we were was widely available. It was ignored. Why do you think “Defund the police” was considered a “middle ground” for those on the left? Notice who is doing the gestapo work? Cops.
We did. We had four years to throw this man in prison.
We go four years of lessons about how the rich and connected live by a totally different set of rules and laws from those of us that are not rich or connected.
Luigi demonstrated rather clearly that a bullet is equally effective on any man regardless of his wealth.
Longer than that. His first presidency was more than 4 years ago.
We need to start talking about how we’re going to hold these people accountable once this is all over. And we need to think of methods that bypass SCOTUS all together.
I propose that we rendition ICE agents to the countries of their victims to face trial in foreign courts. Are you an ICE agent that sent a bunch of innocent Venezuelans off to die in a prison camp in Ghana? We’re shipping your ass to Venezuela to face trial for your crimes against Venezuelan citizens. Just bypass the US judicial system all together, same as Trump is doing. That way some future Republican president can’t just pardon these bastards, and we don’t have to worry about a criminally corrupt SCOTUS refusing to hold murderers accountable for their crimes.
That’s the thing about crimes against immigrants. In theory you can be prosecuted in either their current country or their home country. If you harm an immigrant in the US, even if the US justice system is incapable of holding you accountable, you could simply be extradited to the home nation of your victim.
Hey? Unreal you blokes.
First you tell people from other countries to mind their own business when they tell you to take part in the easy method of dealing with it, then double down on it. Now you think other countries, who you told to mind their own business, should deal with those subhumans because you blokes can’t deal with it at the polling booth nor within the judiciary. As you point out, you don’t have to worry then, because someone else is dealing with it.
At not one single point in this does the US take responsibility, it’s all palmed off to other nations. Developing ones at that.
Maybe, just maybe, you should consider withdrawing the ‘The Hague invasion act’, join the ICC treaty and send all those thugs (beginning with the Fuhrer himself, if he is still alive) to The Hague.
Worked well with Milosevic. It’s working well with Duterte. Would work with the Orange Fuhrer and his goons.
Every single ICE agent needs to be held to account.
once this is all over
We need to be talking about how to get all of this over with
I think it should be simple for ICE members: get the accounting books, see who is paid. Then execute them.
It isn’t kind, but clearly the mercy of Reconstruction and the Nuremberg trials (About 210 Nazis executed) allowed the bastards to be rooted in the culture of their nations. They must be treated like weeds, else they will come back.
The biggest worry here, is the books being falsified when the Hitlerites have clearly lost the war. They would likely add the names of their enemies to their books at the last minute. Hopefully, the Furry Hackers of the Allies would consistently obtain payment records, so that we can know when fake entries have been added.
They have to have due process but I agree that the punishments have been way too soft. The confederacy, the Jim Crow connected officials and the lynch mobs should have been dealt with after a trial with a jury made up of a jury of the community that they were targeting.
I figure that payment records is the closest we can get to due process. ICE wears masks to avoid retribution, and many of their victims will be killed to ensure their silence. Maybe someone smarter than me can figure out a better way to track ICE membership, but I can’t think of it.
Yeah but the point of due process (especially since you specifically mentioned executions), is to make sure beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the person did the thing they’re accused of.
Otherwise, you make mistakes and you kill innocent people. Due process includes gathering the evidence you mentioned, but then also making sure that it’s real and valid and not just someone who didn’t like their neighbor so reported them or what have you
Otherwise, you make mistakes and you kill innocent people.
There are no innocent employees collecting checks from DHS.
That is why ICE is problematic, because they deliberately try to avoid being identified. At some point, we have to choose: do we allow many members of ICE live because of their duplicity, or do we remove them from society, despite not having much information?
It isn’t a great situation. That is why collecting records is important, so that we can obtain a reasonable justice. After having an answer of “Did they serve ICE?” of yes or no, it becomes possible to indict ICE as a class of war criminal. ICE certainly wouldn’t even bother to check for citizenship before sending children abroad without parents, court orders, nor consent, so it is reasonable to have a relatively low standard for whether ICE staff should die. They are effectively genocidal traffickers by choice, and at some point, the restraint of mercy becomes foolishness.
The evil of ICE is corrosive like that, it affects everyone in their vicinity. Unfortunately, an end to a civil war where ICE is allowed to live, just means that they get to continue corroding our humanity decades after, as would their families in the centuries to come. It is better to commit the evil of execution against ICE, in order to prevent their evil by choice from growing strong in the garden of our society.
We need to start talking about how we’re going to hold these people accountable once this is all over. And we need to think of methods that bypass SCOTUS all together.
Cowardice. You need to talk about how to stop it, but that’s too uncomfortable and cuts into your daily routine. Why the fuck are you only interested in doing something after you can’t save their lives anymore?
Yeah but have you considered
The House has tabled this resolution
I guarantee the conditions at these African camps will be inhumane and murderous. They’re located in places already rife with conflict and cruelty. Places like Sudan, etc. It’s the point, to offshore human rights violations. Sounds familiar
I don’t think they are. I think a LOT of these people are being sold off into slavery or re-deported to their home countries (Trump is notoriously using Ghana as a middleman to deport people, especially Africans, to their home countries in violation of protection orders), where they’re being jailed, killed, or tortured (which is literally what those protection orders are trying to forestall).
or re-deported to their home countries
Do you have any evidence that this is happening?
Yes, here’s the Washington Post on the court case surrounding this.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/09/13/ghana-deportation-trump-migrants
Thanks. Fucking sickening.
You forgot the craziest part; US citizens are being deported and being sold into slavery.
Jesus Christ, America.
Nothing to do with one another despite very loud declarations to the contrary.
There’s a whole religion based on what Jesus did in America. It’s so popular, it’s turned one state into a de facto theocracy,
It is all false.
The kid who killed Charlie Kirk was literally raised in it.
