• Substance_P@lemmy.world
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    Oh yes the Chinese Communist Party, the cake and eat it too party, where it somehow is able to access global markets and benefit from international trade rules, freely able to meddle in international affairs while embellishing its own interests.

    It’s mind blowing how the desperation of late stage capitalism allows the CCP to operate within these frameworks.

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      Corporations would do literally anything for their “mah quarterly profits and mah shareholders”.

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        Seriously, people need to keep this in their mind at all times. Every single publicly traded company in the world would happily throw a bus full of children into a volcano if it got them a fraction of a point in next quarter’s numbers.

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          Yet people still defend the system that enables these greedy fucks, as if greedy fucks don’t exist and corporations will toootally work in a logical manner…

          Peoples’ hubris toward the evils of their neighbors will be the death of humanity. Someone who fires a bunch of people to save money isn’t a “boss making hard decisions” They’re an asshole throwing people away to protect profit.

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      I’m confused, you use the term late stage capitalism, but you don’t see that China is clearly not the worst offender of meddling in intl. affairs to suit their own interests. Like, America has even more access to global markets than China does, and also meddles way harder. Literally overthrowing governments, rewriting laws, or just straight up bombing to dust levels of meddling.

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          Explain why it’s bad argument in this situation. To me it seems nonsensical to criticize a country that isn’t remotely as bad as the worst people doing what you accuse them of.

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              It’s not whataboutism if the what about subject is literally worse on this specific topic. In order to be deflection, you need to be changing the subject.

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                It is exactly whataboutism. You are shifting the focus of the discussion by saying “what about america? They are worse.” The subject was not america being shit (it is) it was about China.

                You are aware that more than one country is capable of being shit at the same time?

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                  Say some country was denying Jews the right to vote, and we were living in 1940-1945. If you were criticizing that country, would it be whataboutism for me to tell you to shut up about them, because Germany is a far bigger problem for Jews? No, because in comparison to Nazi Germany, denying the right to vote is irrelevant. In terms of level of meddling in intl affairs, I do not think China is a relevant player in the arena when considering the top offender.

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      There’s an aspect to Jon they like… Or at least use to their own advantage.

      Jon tends to be pretty hard on China. Remember the controversy over his off-the-cuff comments as Colbert’s guest about covid and China?

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    I’d be more impressed if Congress was under scrutiny for their ties to China. And Russia. And Saudi Arabia.

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    China makes the hardware, I thought this was common knowledge. Of course they have Apple by the balls

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      Apple manufacturing moved a lot out of China. China still has a lot of the raw materials they need, and in quantities they need them, but recently Apple knows it needs to be faborable to them especially right now, if for nothing else to preserve the Chinese market share they currently have and try and keep relationships amicable post manufacturing move.

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      I would hope China has an equivalent. Competition like this in science and arts only elevates humanity. It’s military competition we have to be careful of.