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      Tbh, I do agree with him that we shouldn’t dehumanize. Fascists are humans, who deserve to be put down. There. Easy. No dehumanization, and you can still say that they deserve bullets blowing their brains out the back their heads.

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      The thing is, I’m not pleading for their respect. I won’t get it. I just won’t lower myself to their level so I will not grant them the argument “see, they are doing the same”.

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        Reflexive simplistic judgement without willingness to pull apart or confront uncomfortable ideas that may threaten orthodoxy; most antifascist thought.

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        If you do not understand the principles of defending the humanity you love from the people who want to destroy it, then you are WORSE THAN USELESS. These people are actively destroying society and the very “humanity” you want to preserve… yet you still won’t attack them??

        You are nothing but a useful idiot to fascists with that kind of pacifist attitude… Literally. You are talking down others from action against the things you want to defend from… You’re actively a turncoat against the humanity you want to defend. Seriously, pathetic.

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          Who said I won’t attack them? Of course I would, and have. But within the law, without dehumanizing them.

          You call me pathetic, although I’m actively fighting against the far right, oppression and crimes against humanity.

          You, on the other hand, show you are just as bad as they are.

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              They’re not, but is that an excuse to be lawless too? If the enemy commits war crimes, how are you any better if you do the same?

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                You shouldn’t need an excuse to be lawless; laws are usually bad, and never good in cases where something else wouldn’t do the trick.

                They’re a tool for the powerful to save face and appropriate progressive efforts when on the defensive, to divide us and keep us complacent when they’re on the offensive. They are the shield and sword of injustice. Not a fan.

                Your conscience, fine. But laws? That is, at best; clown shit.

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                  Thanks to laws I live in a wealthy country where I can walk safely on the street anywhere any time without being in danger. No one has guns, there’s safe infrastructure, crime levels are low. But if you live in the US, a corrupt and failed state, or any other corrupt country, I get your sentiment.

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                oh but history shows they were

                we don’t have to guess how this plays out, educate yourself

                ‘better’ is for the strong and civilized, we are not strong in this mess and civil went out with Jan 6th

                they’ve broken the social contract, they no longer deserve its protection

                but it’s moot, this will go the same way it did in Germany

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                    if you’re not in the US I can’t claim to be informed enough

                    i do know Nazis are resurfacing everywhere though so more than likely you’re just fucking oblivious

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            You equating someone who calls a Nazi sub-human with a nazi themselves DOES make you pathetic. You ARE pathetic for failing to realize that the Nazis BETRAY humnaity… yet you still want to be civil with them??

            You are a pathetic failure of the Paradox of Tolerance when you tolerate Nazis existing but do not tolerate people calling nazis names… Genuinely, you have a child’s outlook on life.

            “Just as bad”, yea, to someone whs too fucking stupid to understand how ugly self-defense can get… Again, you are a pathetic child.