• NutWrench@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Culture war issues will never go away until people figure out where the real source of their pain comes from. It comes from the 1 percenters. It’s a class war. It always has been.

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      While I think the rich are one of the most influential sources of it, I’m not convinced they’re the only or even the majority. Like, of the rich stopped using bigotry to divide people, would people stop being bigoted? I don’t think so at all. I think there’s something wrong with humanity that makes it easy for bigotry to evolve even in the absence of power and perhaps worse, for people to want to be bigoted.

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      If the culture war is the class war then the class war is the culture war. Dealing with the culture war is often many many times more actionable. We can and should deal with both.

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      Now I want a team based FPS game where classes are the economic classes.

      And you can decide to revolt and switch around the teams to make it proletariat versus bourgeoisie. (The French sure have weird spelling btw)

      What ever team that can hold the most strategic points/means of production long enough wins.

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        tbh English isn’t that much better than french at that. Just in this sentence there are a bunch of syllables that don’t sound like they should. Y’all can’t even decide if color has a u in it 💀

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          no language is perfect, the other guy was just saying french has weirder spelling than english

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            German is perfect. Everyone will agree how to spell Schifffahrkarte the moment they hear it.

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            Of course, but english is in the weird spelling side of the spectrum. For (maybe an extreme) example Japanese spelling bees must be boring af cause words are spelled exactly as they are said, and with few exceptions (in kana) every sound has only one character associated with it (two cause there’s a second alphabet/syllabary with them)

            On the flipside they also have literally thousands of characters in yet a third alphabet because reading only the phonetic ones is a pain in the butt and there are so many homonyms oh my god

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    Rich people have always had the freedom to be who they are. You think wealthy gay men were beaten up in back alleys? Maybe they couldn’t announce it to the world but they pretty much got to live their lives in peace. When you don’t have to work to survive and when the world bends to your will it’s amazing how culture doesn’t seem to effect you so harshly anymore.

    It’s not that culture isn’t important. It’s that the ability to live in peace for who you are tends to come automatically when you have your living taken care of.

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    Somebody has got to fighting the War on Christmas (on the side of warring against Christmas).

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    Man, if we’d stop fighting culture war issues, we’d have won the class war. But on the Left, we always take the bait.

    I always think of it like, would we rather the North fought for abolition or should the North tried to rally around universal suffrage, gay marriage, trans rights and abolition, have no states join them and have the confederacy be almost every state and slavery not stop. Like, yup, it’d be nice if everyone was on the right page right away but cultural progress takes time. And Fox news goads the Left into fighting fights that the mainstream isn’t quite ready for yet.

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      Reconstruction was pretty royally bungled by the Andrew Johnson presidency as well, and the Populists who fought with racial solidarity after for what was in essence a class mission were dealt with by the capitalist class.

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        In your head, what was the relationship between what I wrote and your response?