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    It’s a class war. It always has been. The 1 percenters use their control of the media to keep the poor and middle classes fighting with each other, so that they . . . the rich, can run off with all the f*cking money.

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    Trying to oppress minorities harder is actively a part of class war though. This is like, marxism 101

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    Minimizing human rights issues to further the cause for socioeconomic ones doesn’t make you an enlightened anticapitalist, it makes you ideologically pro-CCP.

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        Please list some of the top “culture war” issues.

        I think you’ll find a pattern.

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          Trans Rights are Human Rights.

          Housing is a Human Right

          Healthcare is a Human Right

          Having Nutritional needs met are a Human Right

          Systemic Racism is denying People of Color their Constitutional and Human Rights in America.

          Palestinians are having their Human Rights trampled on by Israle.

          ALL of these issues are deeply important to me, but all of them arise as symptoms of Class Warfare and are stoked up as culture war issues to keep the Prolitariat divided and distracted from the Ruling Class that holds the reigns of power. We must recontexualize these issues as what they are, distractions being used to take the ire off of the Ruling Class and getting the Working Class to punch down instead of punching up. We need Class Conciousness and the only way to form it is by redirecting the ire of the Working Class to the Ruling Class that has been robbing them of their labor for decades upon decades. You arent gonna get the disenfranchised Conservative working class on your side with moral arguments or it would have happened by now. We must demonstrate that the Ruling class doesnt give a fuck about them and that is from where their problems stem, not from folks struggling just as much if not more than them.

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            ALL of these issues are deeply important to me, but all of them arise as symptoms of Class Warfare

            A society that achieves socialism might still be homophobic, transphobic, racist, ableist and sexist. These things persist in culture even if the socioeconomic system might promote them, you cannot just will them out of existence because the conditions that made them sprout no longer exist.

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              A society that achieves socialism would most certainly have those sentiments lingering, but eliminating the socioeconomic system that causes the symptoms is the first place is the obvious first step to permanently riding society of those sentiments. A good doctor uses the symptoms to diagnose and treat the underlying disease with the appropriate medicine. A bad doctor just prescribes medicine to help a patient live with the disease without addressing the underlying cause that lead to the symptoms in the first place. We can fight the sentiments you listed by raising class conciousness and eliminating the status quo that allows said sentiments to thrive and multiple.

  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    Reminded me of this piece from Michael Parenti:

    Class gets its significance from the process of surplus extraction. The relationship between worker and owner is essentially an exploita­tive one, involving the constant transfer of wealth from those who labor (but do not own) to those who own (but do not labor). This is how some people get richer and richer without working, or with doing only a fraction of the work that enriches them, while others toil hard for an entire lifetime only to end up with little or nothing.

    Those who occupy the higher circles of wealth and power are keenly aware of their own interests. While they sometimes seriously differ among themselves on specific issues, they exhibit an impres­sive cohesion when it comes to protecting the existing class system of corporate power, property, privilege, and profit. At the same time, they are careful to discourage public awareness of the class power they wield. They avoid the C-word, especially when used in reference to themselves as in "owning class;’ "upper class;’ or “moneyed class.” And they like it least when the politically active elements of the owning class are called the “ruling class.” The ruling class in this country has labored long to leave the impression that it does not exist, does not own the lion’s share of just about everything, and does not exercise a vastly disproportionate influence over the affairs of the nation. Such precautions are them­selves symptomatic of an acute awareness of class interests.

    Yet ruling class members are far from invisible. Their command positions in the corporate world, their control of international finance and industry, their ownership of the major media, and their influence over state power and the political process are all matters of public record- to some limited degree. While it would seem a sim­ple matter to apply the C-word to those who occupy the highest reaches of the C-world, the dominant class ideology dismisses any such application as a lapse into “conspiracy theory.” The C-word is also taboo when applied to the millions who do the work of society for what are usually niggardly wages, the “working class,” a term that is dismissed as Marxist jargon. And it is verboten to refer to the "exploiting and exploited classes;’ for then one is talk­ing about the very essence of the capitalist system, the accumulation of corporate wealth at the expense of labor.

    The C-word is an acceptable term when prefaced with the sooth­ing adjective “middle.” Every politician, publicist, and pundit will rhapsodize about the middle class, the object of their heartfelt con­cern. The much admired and much pitied middle class is supposedly inhabited by virtuously self-sufficient people, free from the presumed profligacy of those who inhabit the lower rungs of soci­ety. By including almost everyone, “middle class” serves as a conve­niently amorphous concept that masks the exploitation and inequality of social relations. It is a class label that denies the actu­ality of class power.

    The C-word is allowable when applied to one other group, the desperate lot who live on the lowest rung of society, who get the least of everything while being regularly blamed for their own victimiza­tion: the “underclass.” References to the presumed deficiencies of underclass people are acceptable because they reinforce the existing social hierarchy and justify the unjust treatment accorded society’s most vulnerable elements.

    Seizing upon anything but class, leftists today have developed an array of identity groups centering around ethnic, gender, cultural, and life-style issues. These groups treat their respective grievances as something apart from class struggle, and have almost nothing to say about the increasingly harsh politico-economic class injustices perpe­trated against us all. Identity groups tend to emphasize their distinc­tiveness and their separateness from each other, thus fractionalizing the protest movement. To be sure, they have important contributions to make around issues that are particularly salient to them, issues often overlooked by others. But they also should not downplay their common interests, nor overlook the common class enemy they face. The forces that impose class injustice and economic exploitation are the same ones that propagate racism, sexism, militarism, ecological devastation, homophobia, xenophobia, and the like.

    https://valleysunderground.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/blackshirts-and-reds-by-michael-parenti.pdf

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        To all of us. They are exactly the same, having the same ideological faults and exactly the same moral deficiencies.