• WatDabney@fedia.io
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    America - the land of “people should be punished for voting the ‘wrong’ way.”

    It’s amazing that all it took was a few months of Trump in office for Republicans to stop even bothering to pretend to be anything other than overtly and explicitly anti-American - to out themselves as deliberate and even enthusiastic enemies of every single thing that ever made America great…

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      Conservatism is, at its root, monarchist. The original writers and thinkers were focused on preserving authoritarian rule, then upon how to build and maintain hierarchies of society where people rule over others.

      They’ve never been interested in democratic ideals unless it suits them to reinstate a dictatorship.

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        It must be such a radically different mindset to live in. Like, I can’t imagine ever feeling enthusiastic about enforced hierarchies and monarchy.

        Social mobility feels the most liberating, and social constraints the most confining. How can anyone feel differently? I genuinely do not understand.

        Weren’t we supposed to be in suppprt of free markets? Aren’t those supposed to empower people to make deals with other people on their own terms, create value, compete, and prosper? Enforced hierarchy and oligarchy feels like not at all that.

        It must be control-freakery which, again, I cannot relate to at all.

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          Edmund Burke and Joseph de Maistre were not anti-monarchist at all. Rather the opposite. If you’re thinking of the founding fathers of the United States then you’re not having the same conversation as who you replied to.

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      I’m totally fine with this. Assuming there is going to be another election, and a democrat wins, I think social security should only be for people who support socialism. Those “backbones of our country” trump voters can go get jobs or die.