JERUSALEM (AP) — The head of surgery at Gaza’s largest and most advanced hospital held up his phone Saturday to the hammering of gunfire and artillery shelling. “Listen,” said Dr. Marwan Abu Sada as fighting raged around Shifa Hospital.

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    erase the current populace entirely

    Do you realize that the population of Gaza grows by over 50,000 people every year? Even if we accept the casualty figures provided by Hamas (and I don’t) then unless this war goes on at its current intensity for another four months (which it won’t) the population of Gaza will actually increase rather than decrease in the one-year period that includes the war.

    The idea that the war in Gaza is “[erasing] the current populace entirely” is disconnected from reality.

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      Wow.

      Are you literally saying it’s not a genocide because the population is growing faster than the IDF is killing?

      I don’t know what happened to your brain, nor your heart, but I am sad whatever happened to you, happened.

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        You did use the term “erase.”. What about all the Palestinians living inside Israel.

        Obviously it sucks that people are dying, but hamas started the war FFS. They 100% knew it would cause huge civilian losses.

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          If you think Hamas «started» anything, read up on the history. It’s a 75 year long illegal occupation.

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          Israel stated the war 17 years ago, minimum.

          Blockades are acts of war.

          This argument is the adult equivalent of grabbing someone’s hand and punching them in the face with it while saying “stop hitting yourself”

          You should be embarrassed for even making this argument.

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          Yes.

          Nothing is more corrosive to an armies fighting capabilities then an occupation.

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        Civilian casualties aren’t the same thing as genocide.

        genocide: the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group

        When a country with access to the full destructive power of a modern-day military (including nuclear weapons) fights a war in such a manner that at the end of the war there will be more enemy civilians than there were before the war, it is entirely unreasonable to claim that genocide or any attempt to commit genocide is taking place. You might as well call it cannibalism or pedophilia - those are also really bad things that Israel isn’t actually doing.

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          Keep telling yourself whatever you need to support your own narratives. I just wanna let you know that I think you are a cold-hearted person, and I hope that you, your family, or your people will never be thought of, as you are thinking and/or talking of the Palestinians right here.

          They are deliberately bombing hospitals, schools and people fleeing. If you cannot open your eyes to see this, but rather argue about the technicalities of semantics to feel better, I wish you good luck in life.

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          Intentionally withholding food and water when you control all ingress is a way of extirpating a population without bombing and shooting them.

          But so is dropping more explosive power than the two atomic bombs used in Japan into an area the size of Manhattan in a month.

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      I can’t imagine ever having such a cynical and apathetic worldview. All of this death is acceptable to you because more children will be born? Because they’ll be replaced?

      Set a reminder on your calendar for March, and we’ll take a look at the news at that point. I have a sneaking suspicion that you may be surprised. While you’re at it set a reminder to get some therapy too, christ