• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Some of those citations are cyclists on sidewalks endangering pedestrians…

    Others is cyclists running red lights.

    So, cyclists hitting a pedestrian, I feel like we’d agree who’s at fault.

    But say a cyclists runs a red light and tbones a SUV, you’re saying the SUV is at fault?

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      3 hours ago

      Actually, yea, kinda.

      One of the things you’re taught early on in driving school in Japan is to “close the gap” and pull to the side that you’re turning into in order to prevent bicycles and mopeds from fitting between the sidewalk and your car and tboning you if you pull into a right or left turn.

      If you pull into a left turn (left handed driving so similar to a US right turn) without checking that a cyclist is coming up behind you on your left side and they slam into your car you are 100% at fault.

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      The thing you gotta know about japanese roads and the law is that all roads unless explicitly marked otherwise are primarily for pedestrians and cyclists. As a car driver you are borrowing their roads. The law explicitly states that you are not allowed, while operating a motor vehicle, under any circumstances to impede the progress of pedestrians or cyclists.

      The only time the law says otherwise is on highways and roads marked exclusively for motor vehicles.

      Old lady walks in the middle of a four-lane street, shutting down traffic? Yea man too bad, you gotta wait, the most the police will do is set up a road barrier to help her cross easier and ask her nicely to use the pedestrian crosswalk.

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        3 hours ago

        Assuming there’s a bike lane.

        Which I’m assuming is more common in Japan.

        With no bike lane the cyclist should be acting as a vehicle and not cutting off a turning lane at an intersection, although that is common behavior in my experience.

    • Miles O'Brien@startrek.website
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      1 day ago

      They’re saying it’s on the SUV driver to prove they didn’t do illegal things that resulted in the accident, assuming normal police requests don’t do it first (security camera footage of the intersection) because nobody knows for sure who ran a red light except the people involved, unless there’s proof.

      Not “someone said the SUV ran a red light and everyone believed them instantly without proof and the SUV was found at fault”

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      1 day ago

      They said assumed, which makes me think it’s a general predisposition, but open to additional evidence. We assume a car that rear-ends another is at fault, but that doesn’t make that if car A pushes car B into car C, the operator of car B is necessarily liable for car C’s damages. It’s just the going theory before additional evidence comes into play.