I really like lemmy and have stopped using reddit months ago. My only real gripe with lemmy is the title: when a conversation gets going in the comment section, that gets killed when the post is deleted, for whatever reason. I can’t even go back to a conversation and have a look at the comment threads to “dwell in nostalgia” (or whatever) if the post to the comment section gets deleted. Piecing the threads together from the inbox and my comments on my profile, and continuing a discussion via direct messages is cumbersome and kind of antithetical.
So, feature request, I guess: Enable retrieving comment sections of deleted (removed from community) posts. Bonus points if new comments could be added after the deletion (/removal) of a post.
Little add-on: The current behavior kind of makes the creator of a post the “owner” of the comment section. If they dislike an ensuing conversation, even if they’re not involved in it, they just delete the post - “Fuck you, you’re not having that conversation!”. I find that problematic from an ethical perspective.
If they didn’t do it the mods and admins will.
Power mods shape conversation here far more than Reddit mods ever did.
If they didn’t do it the mods and admins will.
Yah, I was about to mention that, but left it out to keep the post brief and on point.
Power mods shape conversation here far more than Reddit mods ever did.
I’m not sure of that. My experience feels the other way around.
Maybe humans just deserve war after all
I find that problematic from an ethical perspective.
You are not entitled to the moderation you want, host your own instance, it’s their club.
It seems you completely missed the point. I made no comment on moderation in any way, shape, or form.
The point is i think it is a moderation decision to do that, you are welcome to host your own instance with a modified version of lemmy.
The scenario I laid out clearly doesn’t involve mods or admins. Though mods’ or admins’ intervention has the same effect. As pointed out by at least one mod here in the comments, it is problematic from their perspective too, because nuking entire threads by deleting one comment or post is a technical limitation, not a moderation issue
That comic is so full of shit. Anyway, enjoy brown nosing mods forever because the moment stop toeing that line, you’re gonezo
A decent approach, as a social platform, would be to use the Reddit model. The content is stripped and replaced with [deleted] if deleted by the user, and [removed] if removed by moderation (with the appropriate log in the modlog). This should maintain the overall comment chain.
I think the issue may be federating the update to other instances. I’m not sure how it works now, but if it’s treated as an edit, that should work like they currently do.
Hopefully, automatic external caching of all content makes any form of deletion by users or mods physically impossible
Totally agree. It also happens when a comment is removed and the whole tree of replies gets cut off at that point and is no longer viewable. It’s definitely technically feasible because admins can still see removed posts/comments and all the replies, so I would imagine it’s just a matter of time until the developers can get around to implementing that functionality for normal users.
Removed by mod
I’ve been running into this more and more recently and it can be frustrating.
Usually I’m looking for some specific piece of info that I received in response to a comment I made, or something I commented on. However if the post was removed for whatever reason I can only view my comment, but no context.
So it seems like the comment itself is still there, so I’m assuming other comments are still there, just only visible for the users that made them. It would be great if this was changed as OP is requesting.
Lemmy’s default code can’t even avoid deleting your unposted comment if you scroll down too far.
You setup an instance where you don’t delete any content
Yes, censorship is cancer. Why didn’t the cancer stay on Reddit.
