• assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m trying to understand the downvotes you have. Like yeah, what you’re saying is extreme. But murdering goddamn infants is pretty fucking extreme. If there was ever a time to wish someone pain, it would be now.

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      1 year ago

      Some people aren’t mental and don’t wish to inflict pointless harm on others.

      If its wrong to harm people, its wrong to harm those who harm people too.

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        1 year ago

        Youre gonna get downvoted for not validating the 2 minutes’ hate. There are an awful lot of people who are very excited to find someone they can get away with doing violence against.

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        1 year ago

        That’s like saying we should be tolerant of republican’s fascism. Some things shouldn’t be allowed even if you sorta need to act like them towards them to get it to stop.

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          1 year ago

          No its nothing like that. Shes been given 14 life sentences, how is that tolerating anything??

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        1 year ago

        Isn’t exactly pointless when someone’s committed a crime against humanity – and murdering those newborns is absolutely a crime against humanity.

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          Stopping her from hurting anyone else is the point. Torturing her just because you can get away with it is pointless.

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                Schadenfreude would be the term for the actual pleasure derived. And I’m not going to pretend that it’s morally right or ethical to enjoy. But it is human to desire vengeance and revenge. Wishing harm to someone who murdered newborns is one of the least morally wrong instances of vengeance.

                Plus, I hold that moral absolutism is an even greater evil. This is why the paradox of tolerance exists, and why the same goes for pacifism. It’s impossible to have a pacifistic society unless you are willing to use violence to dissuade violence. You would probably say that means there’s no difference between the two individuals, and I would have to vehemently disagree. Intent and context are incredibly important.

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          That’s not how this works yo. The monster is in prison, she will stay in prison till she’s dead. No more need for extrajudicial punishments. No need to torture or to murder her.

          There is nothing gained from hurting her further except a bunch of unwashed brainlets get hateboners; further it opens a whole can of worms of extrajudicial, punitive violence.

        • gmtom@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          I swear you guys heard someone say that once and now think you can use it to justify any unrelated bullshit.

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          Not at all lol

          Inflicting pain on someone is not stopping them from harming others.

          Making premeditated violence illegal but then punishing it with violence is retarded.

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      1 year ago

      Yea, I’m generally a well composed guy, but it’s hard to keep cool in this instance

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        There usually isn’t much that makes me literally speechless or at a loss for words, but after I read more specific details further down in this thread it actually happened to me. I also can’t remember the last time my eyes actually widened in horror at reading something.

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      Absolutely, people can down vote to oblivion but I stand by what I said. Days old babies, I cannot comprehend this. It’s that reason I may sound a smidge extreme, for a very laid back easy going person this has awoken a great anger in me.

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        And it should, but that anger should be directed not to further hurt this sick animal, but towards all the checks and balances that should have caught this earlier - administration that refused to look into it after her colleagues raised concerns, the implicit trust we put into people in these careers, and the lack of screening that lets people like this into these jobs in the first place.