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Not trying to victim blame here but what kind of idiot parent lets an underage child on the internet unrestricted. Like godam what do u think goes on online.
Oh, buddy, all of them
not all of them but most
Yeah, it’s pretty damn hard to stop kids from doing things - especially since they have their own devices that are required for school.
they have their own devices that are required for school.
JustPrivateSchoolThings
The government gives devices to kids im publoc schools. Well if ur in a 1st world country unlike the us
My daughter has had a school-issued laptop since kindergarten but that shit is locked down tight. She can’t just go wherever she wants on it.
I assumed, quite rationally, that you meant purchased devices. There’s no reason a school device wouldn’t be tightly controlled.
As they should be. U assuemd correct. Mind u i did completly bypass all restrictions my school put on computers. But at that point i feel i earned the right to see fucked up shit on the internet.
Mind u i did completly bypass all restrictions my school put on computers. But at that point i feel i earned the right to see fucked up shit on the internet.
If you can do the former I think you’ve certainly earned the latter.
what kind of idiot parent lets an underage child on the internet unrestricted
All of them? The only restrictions my parents gave were about the amount of time I spent there and it’s the same story with all my friends.
Back in the dial up days, my dad installed a switch in the phone socket in his room (which was wired before the phone socket in the computer room) so he could disable the internet at night. I used to sneak in while he was snoring and crawl around the bed to switch it back on.
Point being, there’s only so much you can do to prevent kids from accessing things they shouldn’t. The right way to parent is to try and direct your kids towards the right things, but also offer age-appropriate yet honest explanations for the things they do find. But it’s a difficult balance, as kids get older they deserve more privacy, and it’s difficult enough for an individual to stay ahead of the tech curve than to keep your whole family on top of it.
That argument is getting weaker every year. Let’s assume that the parents were 18 when they had her, that means the parents were born in 1985. That makes them millennials, who probably had the internet from at least 5 years old. So they aren’t some ignorant boomers who have no idea what the internet is, and they can take steps to moderate the experience.
Born in 93, my home had internet when I was like 5-6, but that was only for my mother to play virtual cards with friends and for research for her college. Didn’t really have regular internet access until early 2000’s.
the internet wasn’t actually that available til 1994 or so, and the dot-com boom was late 90s.
You are not accounting for how lately average tech knowledge and skills have been declining rather than increasing, and that internet access is so ubiquitous that even given the best attempts at monitoring and restricting, there is no lack of alternate ways to access whatever one wants to.
Legitimately, it was much easier to control what kids accessed when the only place they could do that was the single family computer the household had.
Lol you’re assuming that everyone had the internet in 1990? Most households didn’t get it until the 00’s. I was in the early group, and I didn’t get it until around '95 (I still have dodgeball.exe downloaded from the Cartoon Network website in 1996). Most people I went to school with didn’t have internet at all, many didn’t even have a computer.
Even if you were clued up, is it really appropriate for parents to snoop on everything their child does? As they get older, it’s expected that they have a little privacy to themselves, and arguably not giving them some privacy could be considered abuse.
Is it really appropriate for parents to snoop on everything their child does?
When did I say they need to be a helicopter parent? I am simply saying kids in the 90s had parents who did not grow up with this computer thing, and were not aware of what they could be doing. So kids could do whatever. This person obviously had this type of parent.
These days, if you’re not at least taking an interest in what websites and communities they are participating in, you are not parenting.
Even more than this, if your kid feels pressured by an adult to get naked for them, and doesn’t immediately tell you, then I believe you have utterly failed as a parent.
Though it’s not entirely without risk, I’m glad my parents, friends’ parents and school did when I was a kid. I find it somehow sad if today’s kids aren’t exploring the web + world on their own (with advice) some of the time, and figuring out how to act carefully outside of the walled gardens, getting to know themselves and preparing for the realities of life.
I’m glad my dad has a no smartphone/electronics till you’re 18.
When do the alcoholics get to sue the bars/pubs for “forcing” them to walk through the door and order a drink?
Another good thing falls to the whims of lack of personal responsibility, parenting, and Helen (won’t someone think of the children?!) Lovejoy syndrome. Now the predators will just continue to do there thing in a darker hole that is even harder to find.
I don’t understand the comparison. Are the children being preyed upon the alcoholics in this scenario?
Parents fault, not the site.
Parents don’t know DNS…
I have a fundamental question about this case: was he there physically with her? Coercion is one thing, but the word “force” implies he was somehow in control. I am in no way defending him, but it reeks terribly of the “look what you made me do” vibe and I feel somewhat uneasy about how this played out.
Omegle was a piece of the internet I never partook in. It never appealed to me to talk with random internet people. Perhaps I don’t understand why he had power over her.
Edit: thanks, I everyone. I get it from a subjective position.
Her lawsuit, filed in 2021, alleged that she met a man in his thirties on Omegle who forced her to take naked photos and videos over a three-year period. She was just 11 when it began in 2014.
Not all methods of force are physical. This was an adult talking to an 11 year old. 11 year olds have in many cases not had enough life experience to understand that there are adults that will manipulate them in this way. It’s possible he got her to do things and then blackmailed her for more. Regardless of how he did it, he was an adult and she was an 11 year old child. Not acceptable no matter the circumstance.
He somehow got her to get started and then threatened her, saying that she was now complicit in making illegal porn and would get in trouble.
Shitty parents don’t look at internet history. Even shittier parents blame others for not educating themselves on protecting their kids.
Ok but that’s still not the kids fault. It’s the adult who forced a child to send him nude photos.
I don’t think anyone is blaming the child. All of the adults involved fucked up.
I don’t disagree. But the parents should be devastated thinking “we could have done more” because it’s a few YouTube videos away from a locked down device.
Archived version: https://archive.is/0eou1
I wondering how much time will pass for other Omegle emerge? I mean something will fill the gap if there is business you know.
Everyone jokes about all the wild shit that happened on Omegle, but all that shit was never ‘ok’.
Itt: sad and angry millennials who want to see an endless barrage of men jacking off
Disgusting that the shutdown note tried to play off their serious issues with grooming and sexual abuse and claim they did a lot. Fuck that asshole.
Edit: Uh oh I’m being downvoted by his fan boys. The article (and successful lawsuit) say’s exactly what I’m saying and anyone who at scale enables mass sexual abuse of children is an asshole. Omegle had no other uses for most of its existence, hypotheticals sure but as the article mentions in practice it was overwhelmingly full of naked men trying to find women and children to interact with sexually. The site runner was flagrantly negligent.
Gosh I love certain types, you’ll rightly jump on a pastor who looked the other way for sexual abuse happening in his church as being responsible, yet a guy who runs a big website for years full of abuse is taken at his word as a sweet, innocent, helpless, benevolent advocate for a better web because he talks right. (Never mind he deliberately obfuscated the horrors happening on his website with his closing statement which people here ate up. It takes a lot to lose safe harbor)
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The design of the website clearly had serious issues. As example, the matchmaking should have been massively reworked.
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They can’t account for people lying about their age. She started using the platform at 11. I’d be curious to know what profile info she did enter, and what age that displayed her as.
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As a child, ultimately her parents are responsible. They should be held accountable for putting their child in danger.
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The groomer was a predator, same as if lurking on the playground. They must be charged to the maximum possible.
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