TLDR: Drug dealers in Catalonia have started to adopt GrapheneOS en masse leading to Catalan police suspecting anyone with a Google Pixel is a drug dealer

  • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works
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    16 hours ago

    Basically, if you don’t have a phone the cops can easily backdoor, you must be a criminal.

    “What do you have to hide?” taken to it’s logical conclusion.

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      10 hours ago

      Humans are apes desiring power, there’s no excuse under which you can give it to them. They’ll invent authority giving them right to judge you and think they are in the right.

      Also why I absolutely despise the Silicon Valley - it’s many such people who think they are the elite now. I want that place detroited as soon as possible. Zuckerberg prosecuted for all the murders he’s committed (I’m certain there are plenty, a person with ASPD with such power just can’t be anything else) which are now unknown, Brin and other jerks playing “cooperating with legal elected authorities” while giving them something with no mandate whatsoever feeling themselves powerful - prosecuted for high treason, all these playing censorship and recommendation - prosecuted for scams on the scale of billions, yadda-yadda.

      Cops saying this should be immediately sued for inciting hate or defamation or whatever against people who don’t want to be backdoored.

      I have a right to not be surveilled, they don’t have a right to surveil me.

      Anyway, I might all the time fly a weird trajectory between various ideologies, but they are all anarchist and Silicon Valley bosses are all thieves.

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        6 hours ago

        they are all anarchist and Silicon Valley bosses are all thieves.

        Nothing is ever absolute, but Silicon Valley has been going in a consistently bad direction for 20+ years now.

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      16 hours ago

      Basically, if you don’t have a phone the cops can easily backdoor, you must be a criminal.

      … and if it’s an obscenely expensive one.

      Normal people either can’t afford these devices or don’t have time for all the hassle of installing and using a rare operating system on a phone.

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        47 minutes ago

        Normal people either can’t afford these devices or don’t have time for all the hassle

        Had a friend who was getting by on $2k/mo and got herself a $1400 top of the line iPhone, because her carrier gave her a reduction in her monthly payment plan (for an obscene amount of debt and locked-in service on the back end). Her brother jail-broke it for her and did the normal “cleaning off all the bloatware” due-diligence.

        This is just something we all put up with in the modern day. “Normal people” have a harder time navigating the bullshit, but its a lake we all have to paddle through.

      • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works
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        16 hours ago

        Pixels are mid range if you buy a generation back. I have 6a and paid $250 two years ago.

        No one forces you to root your Pixel, you are allowed to use it with stock android.

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        13 hours ago

        You can install Graphene from the browser, it’s really not a huge hassle to install especially if you do it right when you get the phone.

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        Minimum wage in Spain is €1,300 per month. A Pixel 9a is under $500 and under €550 and currently on sale for $449 and €500. A couple of hundred can get you a Pixel 9. What exactly is a not obscenely price for a flagship phone to you?

        And I don’t even understand your second comment. People spend over an hour a day on social media alone.

        So the normal person in Spain could buy this phone and the normal person in Spain does have the time to figure out how to install a “rare” operating system. A “rare” operating system that’s free and easily copied.

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          6 hours ago

          Rare is a matter of popular practice, not difficulty.

          It’s rare to walk around with an actual tinfoil hat, but not difficult or expensive to do.

          • IllNess@infosec.pub
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            5 hours ago

            When someone says “rare operating system”, the word “rare” describes “operating system”.

            Here is the statement again:

            Normal people either can’t afford these devices or don’t have time for all the hassle of installing and using a rare operating system on a phone.

            In your sentence, “rare” is used to describe “it”, a pronoun, which refers to the action “to walk around with an actual tinfoil hat”.

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                I commented a user’s use of “rare”. Then you did the same to my comment.

                I didn’t think how the initial poster use of the word “rare” meant to describe “a matter of popular practice, not difficulty.” So I replied back to you.

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          7 hours ago

          maybe they dumbed down “a custom ROM” or just didn’t want to name GrapheneOS

      • icegladiator@lemy.lolOP
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        15 hours ago

        GrapheneOS is most used on old Google Pixels which are anything but “obscenely expensive”

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        15 hours ago

        Pixel 9 pro with 512Gb is obscenely expensive. Pixel 8a, with minimal storage is pretty affordable. 7a dare I say cheap.

      • TheLowestStone@lemmy.world
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        15 hours ago

        The refurbished pixel 8 I bought cost a fraction of what I’d have paid for a new phone and the installation took 5 minutes.

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        15 hours ago

        The A series lines have been the best value smartphones generation after generation. I would not say theyre expensive. I have bought each current gen for about $350 or less (excluding tax), no trade in.