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    14 hours ago

    I think it’s lemmy users. I see a lot more LLM skepticism here than in the news feeds.

    In my experience, LLMs are like the laziest, shittiest know-nothing bozo forced to complete a task with zero attention to detail and zero care about whether it’s crap, just doing enough to sound convincing.

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      8 hours ago

      Wdym, I have seen researchers using it to aid their research significantly. You just need to verify some stuff it says.

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        8 hours ago

        Verify every single bloody line of output. Top three to five are good, then it starts guessing the rest based on the pattern so far. If I wanted to make shit up randomly, I would do it myself.

        People who trust LLMs to tell them things that are right rather than things that sound right have fundamentally misunderstood what an LLM is and how it works.

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          8 hours ago

          It’s not that bad, the output isn’t random. Time to time, it can produce novel stuffs like new equations for engineering. Also, verification does not take that much effort. At least according to my colleagues, it is great. Also works well for coding well-known stuffs, as well!

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            6 hours ago

            It’s not completely random, but I’m telling you it fucked up, it fucked up badly, time after time, and I had to check every single thing manually. It’s correctness run never lasted beyond a handful. If you build something using some equation it invented you’re insane and should quit engineering before you hurt someone.

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      11 hours ago

      😆 I can’t believe how absolutely silly a lot of you sound with this.

      LLM is a tool. It’s output is dependent on the input. If that’s the quality of answer you’re getting, then it’s a user error. I guarantee you that LLM answers for many problems are definitely adequate.

      It’s like if a carpenter said the cabinets turned out shit because his hammer only produces crap.

      Also another person commented that seen the pattern you also see means we’re psychotic.

      All I’m trying to suggest is Lemmy is getting seriously manipulated by the media attitude towards LLMs and these comments I feel really highlight that.

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        10 hours ago

        If that’s the quality of answer you’re getting, then it’s a user error

        No, I know the data I gave it and I know how hard I tried to get it to use it truthfully.

        You have an irrational and wildly inaccurate belief in the infallibility of LLMs.

        You’re also denying the evidence of my own experience. What on earth made you think I would believe you over what I saw with my own eyes?

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          6 hours ago

          Why are you giving it data. It’s a chat and language tool. It’s not data based. You need something trained to work for that specific use. I think Wolfram Alpha has better tools for that.

          I wouldn’t trust it to calculate how many patio stones I need to build a project. But I trust it to tell me where a good source is on a topic or if a quote was said by who ever or if I need to remember something but I only have vague pieces like old timey historical witch burning related factoid about villagers who pulled people through a hole in the church wall or what was a the princess who was skeptic and sent her scientist to villages to try to calm superstitious panic .

          Other uses are like digging around my computer and seeing what processes do what. How concepts work regarding the think I’m currently learning. So many excellent users. But I fucking wouldn’t trust it to do any kind of calculation.

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            1 hour ago

            Why are you giving it data

            Because there’s a button for that.

            It’s output is dependent on the input

            This thing that you said… It’s false.