• grue@lemmy.world
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    I hope Europe is scrambling to launch new satellites to pick up the slack. (For their own sake, not the US’, of course.)

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      Okay but what about everyone else? Because they’re not getting that data either.

      And what about US-American climate scientists? Like the climate scientists are not to blame for this.

      Be kind to people, be ruthless to systems.

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          No? Everyone else doesn’t deserve access to US-American climate data? Because even if US-Americans all unilaterally deserve the worst, then what about the innocent people the empire has damned to a climate-related death?

          Buy guns and sacrifice.

          This is individualistic thinking. I absolutely support armed insurrection against the US government, but we gotta organize, we gotta gather support, we gotta get the masses involved in their own liberation.

          Individualistic tactics by those with high risk tolerances need to be complemented by collectivist actions.

          It’s just not as simple as “buy a gun and go out in a blaze of glory”.

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              Then do it. I never said anything about not planning or a blaze of glory.

              You said “Buy a gun and sacrifice” but without any discussion of what to actually do with those guns. Maybe I read too much into your words, I’ll cop to that, but it felt like you were implying that buying guns and nebulously “sacrificing” are the solutions. My point is that we need to actually do stuff with those guns and our sacrifices.

              And strictly speaking, I did not say that you said those things. By your logic, I could accuse you of putting words in my mouth…but it’s more likely you are just trying to read the subtext of what I said, which is absolutely reasonable.

              People standing for humanity don’t give a shit about your political system or nation.

              Okay fine boycott us I literally don’t care, I fucking hate this country…but to do accurate climate research, you need climate data from across the globe, right? I mean sure you could interpolate the missing data, but would that be physically accurate? Probably not.

              The way you people talk your talk is just as bullshit as the methods of the right.

              No lol, leftists are incredibly rare in this country so even when we do go out and do stuff, it gets drowned out by liberals and liberal media. Like there are absolutely people arming themselves, doing mutual aid, protesting, doing direct actions, etc., but the culture here is working against us.

              Like the Mafia boss ain’t shit if he’s alone. Under that metaphor, there just aren’t many mafiosos around here.


              Like I literally do not disagree with your commentary about US-American culture and I am perfectly willing to let you vent at me about my neighbors and even myself, but you’re missing the forest for the trees here. This isn’t a W for you. It just sucks for everyone.

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      I love being dehumanized. There’s at least half of America that doesn’t support this crap, and voted against it. But yeah, we dont deserve anything.