If the Marvel universe was a cow, Hollywood would’ve milked the cunt inside out by now
When Thanos snapped his fingers half my enthusiasm for the MCU disappeared.
I’m actually excited to see this one. Kamala is a fun character and Iman Vellani captured her essence really well. They have not done a good job of making Captain Marvel or Monica Rambeau as characters we care about, but through the Kamala lens we might during the movie. But a lot of folks skipped on Ms. Marvel thinking she was for kids.
However, I wouldn’t even call this dip in presales Marvel fatigue. I’m a Marvel fanboy. I watched She Hulk and enjoyed it. Yet, Marvel have done nothing to actually invest me into the current phase. It’s not a Marvel fatigue but more a multiverse/plot fatigue. I haven’t watched Secret Invasion or Loki 2 because… Why?
I find Kang to be such a damp squib of a character. They ruined most of his mystique at the end of Quantumania to the extent he is no longer a real threat. Thanos worked because he was a difficult but not impossible threat. You felt like even the Guardians had a chance against him as slim a chance as that might be.
Kang is an impossible threat. A multi-versal threat that has no limits. He’s boring because he can’t be overcome.
I’ve said it before when we were all on Reddit, this Phase would be made significantly more interesting if you use this as the opportunity to introduce Doctor Doom. Have him crush Kang as a threat setting up a more complex, potentially beatable, villain and establishing a power order in one sweep.
Once he’s established, bring in the X-Men and FF fighting off incursions, lead up to X-Men Vs MCU as your Summer Blockbuster, have a handful of arthouse y Last Days Of style movies. Go into Battleworld, have some really fun remixes of our established characters, reset the multiverse to a single world with more mundane threats and recast any character who wants out of the franchise.
Instead, this movie becomes a ‘eh. I’ll see it on Disney+ eventually’.
You call yourself a Marvel fanboy, but you enjoyed She-Hulk, and haven’t bothered to watch two of the best Marvel TV shows? Something doesn’t add up.
And this, my fellow Lemmings, we call gatekeeping.
I actually meant it somewhat sarcastically, but I obviously failed in getting that across. I just found it funny that they would refer to themselves as a Marvel fanboy and in the same breath admit to not watching their best content.
Having said that, I’ll happily keep that gate if it prevents more dross like She-Hulk from getting made.
It totally missed the mark even if it was sarcastic. I don’t think a “/s” in the end would’ve saved that.
Calling yourself a fanboy is perfectly reasonable even if you haven’t seen every episode or movie out there. They like it, they can call themselves a fan.
Furthermore, not everyone can afford a Disney+ subscription to watch the full Marvel lore or can’t afford the time to catch up. That doesn’t restrict them from being a fanboy.
We’ll agree to disagree. This just came across as someone calling themselves a Tolkien fanboy when the only content they’d consumed was Rings of Power, or a Star Wars fanboy because they once saw the Holiday Special.
She-Hulk is objectively the worst thing Marvel have ever put out, and was actively insulting to fans.
Also, they clearly do have a Disney+ subscription if they watched it. Nobody would pirate that.
I’ve seen one episode of Secret and have no urge to find out what happens. If Loki is only 6 episodes like last season, this season so far has been a huge nothing sandwich. And episode 5 just came out!
You’re right of course. Neither Loki nor Secret Invasion have such high stakes as the main character’s struggles to find a boyfriend, buy some dope sneakers or dance with Megan Thee Stallion, instead choosing such mundane things as preventing the nuclear annihilation of humankind or preventing the fabric of the universe from collapsing.
Secret Invasion also unfortunately didn’t end with a fourth-wall-breaking monologue about how wrong viewers are for liking the things that the studio have spent two decades building, and Loki didn’t spend a series talking about how wrong it is to judge a person based solely on their appearance, only to then take an established character of the opposite gender and objectify them for laughs.
She-Hulk was a modern masterpiece of storytelling, and anything else Marvel have put out pales in comparison. /s
Marvel made this bed when they did End Game 2. Not that End Game 2 is a bad movie in isolation, just that some of the choices of that film really fucked up long term story telling. When you start doing multi verse or timey wimey bullshit to get out of killing characters you remove any consequences or value from killing off characters. Once you remove the permanence from doing so, and its particularly clear that after the shake out it was done to write out two of the more expensive actors who both feuded over money, you remove it from all other character deaths, as you can no longer trust that they will not just bring somebody back at a later point. Never kill off a character you do not want permanently dead, it just removes any danger that character faces.
This is a big part of the problem with Kang, we know he will not die despite any deaths on the road to the end of the big Avengers pay off, kind of makes his whole build up a bit pointless, unless they going to have him start permanently killing people on his way, which I am really unsure that will happen. Then the other big problem with Kang is his casting as Majors is just proven to be trouble on and off set, at least he hasn’t gone full Ezra yet.
Marvels biggest problem is Captain Marvel just lacks any character, shes too focused on being the invincible Superman but without anywhere near enough Clarke Kent to ground that character for audiences. Its left Brie Larson hardly any space to engage the audience. Sure, we all want the huge super strong pay off scene such as when Thor came for Thanos in Wakanda as that was awesome, but it only meant something because we had already engaged with Thor in his more vulnerable moments, and he had real suffering on his way to his climatic appearance. Making characters too strong just ends up making them unlikable.
Couple this with lazy and often just plain bad writing, terrible CGI, and an over reliance on MacGuffins to dig out of self made holes created to impose any sort of peril, and its no wonder Marvel is struggling…
Never would have thought that oversaturating the market with what felt like an endless stream of marvel movies would have a negative impact…
I don’t see an article link.
Not sure why they only linked an image:
This is the OG source, but it’s buried in among other news.
“Presales for The Marvels are pacing behind that of Black Adam and The Flash (those respective openings at $67M and $55M).”
Edited it. Still trying figure out Lemmy. Apparently you can’t post link with a custom accompanying picture
Good, maybe the theater won’t be too crowded when I go this weekend 😊
