Your Windows 10 PC will soon be ‘junk’ - users told to resist Microsoft deadline::If you’re still using Windows 10 and don’t want to upgrade to Windows 11 any time soon you might want to sign a new online petition

  • danielfgom@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    A bit clickbait’y. Windows 10 will still work just fine for another decade at least, even without support.

    In the Enterprise we ran 10+ year old PC’s with XP still on them because the CNC program only runs on XP. No issues but of course you wouldn’t use the internet on that machine.

    Does having support really make a massive difference, especially if you’re running AV anyway? A good AV suite will still be updated for years to come.

    The government sector like hospitals etc will pay for extended support so not to worry.

    It’s only Enterprise that might have an issue because they want patched systems but may not be able to afford Win 10 Enterprise. Especially small to medium business.

    As for the home user, it’s not a massive issue.

    Personally I don’t care because I run Linux exclusively. I only gave win 10 running in a VM for printing. Canon said on the box that the printer supports Linux, then after I bought it, officially stopped all Linux support on their site. The original Ubuntu driver only support black and white. So I’m forced to use Windows in a VM for printing. But it’s not connected to the net so it will fulfill this role forever.

    If you’re a regular home user and don’t use any special proprietary software like Photoshop, I highly recommend you try Linux Mint. It will also breathe new life into your machine

    • mlfh@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      Not having security patches on a system you do things like go to your banking website on is actually a pretty big deal, and I don’t think it should be dismissed lightly. Also AV is mostly snake oil, and is in no way an adequate substitute for a properly patched OS.

      • danielfgom@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        It’s not as big a deal as you think because most banking hacks are done via browser vulnerabilities rather than OS vulnerabilities. The exception being if you’ve somehow managed to install a keylogger, in which case the issue is the user and a decent AV should detect and block the keylogger.

        As long as you use a browser that gets the latest updates (Firefox, Vivaldi, Chrome), run a decent AV, and don’t install dodgy software you downloaded from some dodgy site, you should be ok.

        AV is definitely not snake oil. I worked in Enterprise IT and a robust AV alongside other security measures is a must and does catch alot. More than the built in Windows security catches. Plus the AV normally incorporates a virus/malware removal tool which tends to be better than Windows built in tool.

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          1 year ago

          Would you advise your enterprise clients that running Windows unpatched is ‘not a big deal as long as you have patched web browsers and AV’? Of course not. Because that’s dangerous advice and could even open you up to legal liability.

          So why would you advise otherwise to home users, who are often more vulnerable in the first place?

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      Last winter I ripped my DVD collection to my NAS. Problem: Neither my current daily driver laptop or desktop have optical drives. So I hauled out my father’s OLD Dell XPS. This thing has a Core i7 with three digits in the part number, I think it was built in 2008 or so. Felt like absolute sluggish crap running Windows 10. It feels perfectly modern running Linux Mint. And I have the old box a pretty hot supper ripping and transcoding all those DVDs all winter, but it did it.

      Computers don’t slow down, Windows does.

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        1 year ago

        I’m running windows 10 on a first Gen i7-930. I’ve upgraded my ram and video card over the years but still on a crappy hdd. Windows isnt lightning fast by any means. But it’s not unbearable. Perhaps my mind will blow when I finally upgrade.

        My pc isn’t eligible for upgrade to eleven. Guess I’m sol then.

    • warmaster@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Have you tried installing CUPS ? And setting up your printer using the web UI ? Worked for me perfectly for every printer I threw at it.

      • DomoPANTS@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        I could not get CUPS working in a docker container for the life of me. So now I have a stupid little CUPS server.

        It does work great, even though it feels like they finished dev in 2003 and never revisited it.

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            1 year ago

            Because my main server is running UnRAID and most things are ran in containers. I could probably do it in a VM, but it seemed like more of a hassle and it might have the same discovery issue the container had. Throwing it in an old dying server as a package is what I ended up doing, but I’m not happy about it. 😅