A second teacher at a high school in Missouri was put on leave after administrators discovered her OnlyFans side hustle.
Megan Gaither, 31, said during an interview with the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that she was placed on leave from her English teaching and varsity cheerleading coach position on Oct. 27 after district officials found out about her account on the OnlyFans platform.
That problem would probably get a lot less acute if you guys over there finally started to pay decent wages to teachers
but… then… like…
how would we have actual teachers to wank off to on OF? huh? HUH?!
(/s. teachers shouldn’t be forced to have a side hustle. Never mind, you know, doing gig-work pornos.)
^ Can confirm, have a teacher in the family and she struggles staying in the profession due to pay issue.
Agree teachers need decent wages but I’m curious why you view this (teachers running only fans sites) as a problem?
It’s not a problem with onlyfans in particular but teaching is difficult and critically important work. It’s a problem that teachers are not paid enough and have to look for side hustles (of any sort).
Once workers get paid more, prices just go up.
How did they discover the page? I’m curious about this.
Gaither said in the interview that she made an account on the direct-to-subscribers website because she has over $125,000 in student loans and needed the extra income.
“Teaching does not financially support a person,” Gaither said. “It’s really hard to stretch those paychecks during the summer. That’s why I did it.”
According to the report, Gaither’s pay, which includes a stipend for coaching the school’s cheerleading squad, was around $47,500.
When Gaither took the account down, she claimed to have had around 1,500 subscribers and was bringing in an extra $3,000 to $5,000 per month.
47,5/12= ~3.96k per month
With an onlyfan page, she made more than the teaching job. The issue isn’t her onlyfan page. It’s the paycheck at the end of the month. They must pay more. Supervisors also have to stop going on onlyfan for other thing than work. I don’t believe they discovered it by chance.
Onlyfan is one of the symptoms of low income not a problem.
Jesus, I make like 3k less and never finished college. I do a shit job on phones. She gets peanuts for putting up with BS and doing 1.5 jobs for a school. Teachers don’t get enough.
The teachers that I know all get summer jobs which bumps their yearly income up several thousand dollars.
A lot of teachers need to use the summers for conferences and planning lessons for the upcoming year. (My wife was a teacher.)
If it’s a required thing they should obviously get paid for that time.
She’s a high school teacher. I’m gonna guess the students figured it out first.
Which one of those kids is gonna rat out their teacher?
My guess it was someone in admin who found it … maybe not the first but they would have been the one to pull the plug.
None of them.
Well… Not on purpose. I could totally see someone blurting the gossip in the school cafeteria.
It is sad to me that the focus isn’t on trying to pay her a living wage so she doesn’t have to have a side hustle. And by the way, all the “free market, lift yourself up by your bootstraps and just get another job” judgmental assholes can just fuck off because that’s exactly what she is doing.
Teacher pay, aide pay, and student loan debt should be the conversation were having here in my opinion. Not the morality of only fans and especially not useless crap like her username.
Exactly this. My wife was a teacher, but hasn’t been in a classroom in over 15 years. When she was pregnant with our second son, we did some budgeting. Take her salary and subtract after school care for our oldest son and daycare for our youngest son and we had $3,000 left over. Not $3,000 a month - $3,000 a year.
And that was before clothing appropriate for school, supplies for school, gas to get to school, and the mydrid of other expenses that come with being a teacher. If she remained a teacher, we wouldn’t be earning money. We would be paying for her to remain tracking
So she stopped teaching and became a stay at home mother.
(By the way, we used her salary because hers was the smaller one. Had mine been the smaller salary, I would have quit and become a stay at home dad.)
We once calculated how much she earned per hour. Given that she was getting in before school to set up, working late after school to help kids out or grade papers, and working holidays to get lesson plans in place, she was making less than minimum wage. She would literally have made more per hour at McDonald’s.
Teachers are very important and deserve more than “maybe, if you’re lucky, you’ll end up with minimum wage.”
I think we need to change the focus, in order to get the misogynists on board. Explain to them that by not paying the teachers in the local District a living wage, they will force all the hot teachers onto OnlyFans to make their living. And their sons will only have frumpy teachers when they get to high school. That ought to scare them.
She’s definitely getting paid a living wage.
Do you think she would die without her side hustle? Or is she trying to live as luxurious a life as possible?
I know what I’d put my money on.
Subsistence wage is what you are thinking of, to meet basic biological necessities. A living wage allows for moderate comfort, because there is more to living than just surviving.
You’re thinking of a ‘respectable wage.’
Living wage means just that. A wage that enables you to live.
there is more to living than just surviving.
I guess if you don’t understand the meaning of the word ‘living’, then sure. It can mean whatever you want, lol.
Yes, she was getting paid a living wage.
Needs are defined to include food, housing, and other essential needs such as clothing.
If you can’t afford all of these on a $50k/year salary, it’s your fault for being bad with money.
Something tells me she drives a nicer car than me and lives in a nicer apartment while eating nicer food and rarely cooking her own meals.
No, this is greed, not need. And it’s next to impossible to call it out for what it is because of how many people participate in it.
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Lol, I’m sorry you’re mad I’m calling out greed for what it is.
Probably because you contribute to it but don’t want to acknowledge it.
My wife was a teacher. I’ve seen what teachers get paid and what they need to pay for (supplies for their room that are essential but that the districts refuse to pay for). It’s actually very likely that this teacher was barely scraping by on her teacher salary.
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According to the report, Gaither’s pay, which includes a stipend for coaching the school’s cheerleading squad, was around $47,500.
The article also mentions that she had $125,000 in student loans. She wasn’t living a life of luxury on that salary. Opening an OnlyFans was a means of making ends meet.
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It depends on where you live. This teacher wasn’t in NYC, but a salary of $47,500 might not get you much there. Your rent alone could take all of your post-tax salary.
And don’t forget that teachers also often have to pay for classroom supplies (including things like tissues which should just be given to them by the district). So their expenses can be higher than other people’s. They are also expected to continue learning - often on their dime.
But setting all that aside, $47,500 would be about $36,000 after taxes which is $3,000 a month. A $125,000 student loan at 6% interest to be paid off in 7 years would cost $1,826 a month. That leaves her $1,174 to live off of.
gives cost of living numbers for Missouri. Even the low figures are over $2,000. So she’d have a $800+ shortfall.
There are a lot of people who go into the teaching profession and quickly leave it once they realize that they can’t survive on a teacher’s income. Teachers deserve more.
Do you think she’d have a life any of us in the same country would voluntarily take on? Do you actually know how hard being a teacher is?
I know what I’d put my money on, for both questions.
So. Underpaid highschool teacher is held to a higher standard then checks notes ex-president(and traitor to) the united states.
This is DISGUSTING. Someone please post her handle or website so I can avoid it.
Wow, that’s a truly original joke that I did not expect to see in the comments at all.
And yet, I was hoping someone would post it.
Comfort posts are like comfort food.
I don’t like my beans refried that many times…
This joke belongs with the “arrow in my knee,” “and my axe,” “is this a bad joke for ants?” etc. Just retired into the pile of moldy crispy pucks of beans refried into oblivion.
Do you want downvotes? Cause that’s how you get downvotes.
Ha, I don’t give a shit about downvotes. Let’s not bring the lame karma obsession of reddit here.
I’m not a fan of repetitive memes and circle-jerking. My blocked communities list is like 50% shit-posting communities and 50% anime communities.
I will also say I was being tongue-in-cheek with my other comment, but I guess everyone is too easily offended. No skin off my
nutsnads tho.I’m with you. As if downvotes mean anything.
Can someone post the link of an axe in your knee so my friend can avoid it?
What was that about ants ?
Like the one “is this a building for ants” joke on Zoolander
And yet it was a sincere request couched in an ironically bad joke, so layers and innuendo. Gotta give some credit.
Why?
Who shit on your donut?
I mean, how else am I supposed to find the handle and simultaneously share it with this community?
Look it up? That’s a boring and predictable joke. If you’re going to be funny then at least try to be original. If you’re looking for porn then go look for porn. It’s the Internet. It’s not hard to find.
Lol nah.
You’re truly George Carlin reincarnated
lmao reddit
Speculation about Gaither’s involvement on the platform began in mid-October when she was seen in a video posted on Coppage’s account. While the video didn’t include Gaither’s face, it was recorded at a party, and she was seen in a public picture wearing the same costume that was worn in the video posted on OnlyFans, according to the report.
So are we not going to call into question the “professionalism” of whoever found this video? Or did someone just accidentally make their way to onlyfans and pay to access her content. 🙄
No, unfortunately they were found to have tits, but no vagina.
Don’t imagine they knew who it was before paying for it, seeing as the only way to see who it was is to pay for it first. To be fair I’d be surprised and uncomfortable if I knew my kid had a teacher who they could find videos of her spread eagle naked whenever they wanted. If the sexes were reversed and it was a male porn star who was teaching children there would be a national uproar. I don’t have anything against sex work but some jobs just don’t really mesh together too well, this is one such situation. The obvious solution is just to pay our fucking teachers more so they don’t have to get second jobs to live but people would rather just yell at her like she’s doing this for shits and giggles because that’s easier than addressing the root problem.
Ridiculous that we “cant find” the money to pay the people educating the next generation more than this women is/will be making this year from posting photos and videos of herself online. Reveals a number of priorities that are out of line.
Yeah agree entirely. And we’ll pay it for as the years go on. I really don’t understand how investing in the future of our country is somehow a partisanship issue. I guess republicans just love inflicting misery more than their so called “patriotism”.
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my kid had a teacher who they could find videos of her spread eagle naked whenever they wanted.
Yeah because children not only know about and routinely use only fans, they have money and credit cards
You’re just a pearl clutcher like the rest of them, don’t try to sound different. You are not different.
…Kids DO use the internet? And know how to swipe credit cards from their parents? Like this isn’t new, this has been thing since the late 90s lol
You say that like if one kid from school can do it then it’s an epidemic. The article states the pictures never showed her face. You are a pearl clutcher, nothing more
I’m a millenial lifelong socialist atheist with gay/trans parents but go off I guess. If you actually read my comment you’d notice that I have nothing against her and instead said she should be paid more so she wouldn’t have to go on only fans.
You can be all of those things and still hold certain reactionary beliefs.
lol as a semi-professional stage magician with astigmatism and a penchant for cross country travel by rail I agree with the other person.
I’m a millenial lifelong socialist atheist with gay/trans parents…
Sure, we all believe you.
Nobody’s biz what she does outside of work. These cunts can fuck off.
In this case I think it is.
It’s not that she’s a sex worker that’s the issue it’s the fact that teens can barely keep their head clear is they have a cute teacher they could picture naked. That effect would be 1000% worse if you can simply give your teacher five bucks to slap her kitty while saying your a great student.
This is like blaming the victim for being shot. It’s a 100% the guy with the gun
It’s not at all the same.
In this case she would be the victim and the shooter. She shot herself in the foot, there are hundreds of ways to spoliate identity effectively on onlyfans and she chose not to. She knew her fan ase and took advantage then claimed to be the victim.
If it weren’t a teacher pandering customized pornography to underage school children would it be ok? I’m gunna guess no, it’s essentially pedophilia at distance.
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That’s not an argument, that’s an attempt to sound intelligent without actually making a point of saying anything intelligent.
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Yep, much like that.
They could just as easily AI her face onto some chick banging 16 dudes.
Correct. I’m not saying I agree with it but I am saying I understand the reasoning.
That’s not how public school teachers operate.
For example, you’re not allowed to be visibly drunk in public if you are a public school teacher.
There are good reasons for this. Teachers are supposed to be role models for students, so seeing one passed out in the gutter isn’t acceptable.
If you don’t like it, then don’t become a public school teacher. There are plenty of other jobs you can do.
Like be a police officer, because we apparently don’t give a fuck if they drive drunk.
Eh, Hutch got demoted to transit cop and then quickly got fired from that too, partly due to the drunk driving thing, and good riddance.
Also there was a Minneapolis cop who got busted for having an OnlyFans last month and she still might get fired for it. A cop having an OF isn’t one of my many complaints about my local police department.
Not sure how this is relevant.
The job qualifications and contracts are different for police officers than teachers.
It’s entirely relevant to your argument. Both are commonly expected to be role models. This expectation is enforced in only one case.
The job qualifications and contracts are different for police officers than teachers.
If officers agreed to terms that prevented them from having an OnlyFans, then you would have a point.
It’s not a part of their contract, so why would they be punished for it?
It is a part of a public school teacher’s contract, so they aren’t allowed to do it.
If they don’t like it, they can do something else.
Citation?
Prove it.
Saw at least one of my teachers drunk in public basically every night (local bar and grill).
How do those “officials” find these OF accounts? 🤔
I think you know.
This is the only reaction people will have when the article drops about her getting fired. Then she gets more viewers, and probably makes more than she ever would have as a teacher.
This is ridiculous. What she does on OnlyFans has absolutely nothing to do with her performance as a teacher and it is disgusting that teachers that we desperately need are not only getting fired for being forced to do outside work to afford to be able to live and also buy supplies for their own classrooms but that they’re getting excoriated for it.
No they need to get real jobs…like at retail so everyone can harass them more and/or recognize them and feel bad while not actually doing anything.
They get it all wrong. In an increasingly online society, this is a nice way to keep the parent-teacher conferences interesting.
But seriously, I don’t get the problem with sex work. It’s not like that’s in any way shape or form relevant for her teaching capabilities. Sex does not become immoral just because you point a camera at it and all these people had to have sex to have children in the first place. Where’s the outrage about children living with their parents? These monsters have sex with each other! Some even while the children are at home!
Well I personally think the real issue here is teachers graduating with too much debt and the fact that most teachers are forced to have some kind of second job in order to pay their debt, bills, & rent \ mortgage.
The only way I can see this becoming a problem is if the kids can’t focus in her classes because they know she has an OnlyFans account. But kids have imagined fucking their teachers since I am sure teachers have existed, so it would just be an extension of that and she probably would have strategies to deal with it.
i named my cum sock after my secondary school english teacher
That might just have been oversharing.
I needed more information. Context. Maybe even a personal anecdote. But this went a little extra. Correction: very extra
Thanks for sharing!
As a chronic masturbator I always though cum socks were a myth as tissues have been invented. You live and learn.
The teaching community (as an institution)has some pretty specific thoughts on how to maintain the parent/student relationship and it involves maintaining some kind of curated image to their students.
One time, when I was maybe 25, I saw a gaggle of good looking women at a pub about the same age as me, and then they came over and asked how I had liked the conference. “conference?”
There had been a teacher conference and a large group went for drinks later and assumed I was also a teacher. I lied and joined the group.
We ended up going to a nightclub later, and one teacher saw that a few of their students had managed to get into the club, and they LOST IT. Not upset at the kids, but they were captured by abstract horror at the thought of their student seeing THEM at the club.
I pushed on it a little bit, like “shouldn’t they be the ones worried about seeing you?”
And like, the whole group thought I had lost my mind. If COURSE the students couldn’t see us there, how would they ever respect us if they understood us as humans with our own lives? The teacher/student relationship would evaporate. Anarchy. The response to my question was immediate and unanimous.
So… I gotta say… I don’t really get it… But there is a culture and mindset within the teaching community that is extremely foreign to me. And, based on my personal experience, I suspect that suspending OF teachers is probably the popular response within the greater teaching community as a whole. I’d be REALLY curious if there is any data that disproves my hypothesis.
I think the idea is that a lot of teachers feel they cannot maintain a proper teacher-student relationship unless the student see them as some sort of ultimate authority on something, and seeing them as humans might put cracks in that. I don’t agree with them since most of the teachers I loved the most in school were the ones I could empathize with, but it was certainly the way a lot of my teachers seemed to believe when I was in school.
I agree. I got the impression it was something they all were taught while getting their education degrees. It reeks of policy developed on ancient and flawed pseudo-psychology
That being said, I know dealing with kids is hard. I can well remember how I thought every parent was stupid and that parenting was easy before I had kids.
I can’t say I have a better way, just that I’m suspicious ofthe current mentality.
The mindset gets embedded into teachers pretty early in their careers. I met my partner in college and was with her while she was a middle school teacher for years so I got the to see this develop in realtime. Education students need to have absolutely flawless records in order to even be eligible for hire. If they have so much as a drunk and disorderly charge on their record then they are essentially barred from teaching because the background checks are so stringent.
It largely depends on the age of students that’s in question, but you also have to remember that teachers are always at the mercy of the parents. They need to deal with a diverse range of religious, political, and educational backgrounds and try to maintain neutrality. Administration will almost always bend to a parent complaint - it’s largely just the way our education system is structured in the US.
We ended up going to a nightclub later, and one teacher saw that a few of their students had managed to get into the club, and they LOST IT. Not upset at the kids, but they were captured by abstract horror at the thought of their student seeing THEM at the club.
In highschool, I worked at Sam’s Club as a cashier (one of those bulk-sales places with memberships, like Costco.)
Just before school started, I had teachers come through stocking up on candy. 2-3 of them. They started acting squarely because how dare teachers shop for school supplies.
It was pretty funny, though. They had a giant flatbed filled with candy, among some other things.
I don’t get the problem with sex work.
Sigh. You must not know any sex-workers then.
The recent glamorization of sex-work is something that exists solely by those who do not participate in it.
I think you misunderstood. There certainly are problems with sex work. Woman being forced into it and living under terrible conditions for example is a big problem with the industry. But this post is about the outrage of other people. What I certainly don’t get is the problem people see in others doing sex work voluntarily. There is nothing morally wrong with having an OnlyFans account or doing any other type of sex work if you chose too. It is just as valid a choice as any other type of work. We should just make sure the conditions aren’t abusive.
I’ve seen a lot of advocates for legalization, if not glamorization, come from the sex work industry. Aella, for example.
Legalization is different from glamorizing.
It should be legal, but should not be glamorized. If you don’t understand the latter half, it’s because you don’t know sex workers and probably base your idea of the profession around a few popular outliers.
The vast majority of sex workers hate their jobs and encourage everyone to steer clear of the profession.
The irony of this is being put on administrative leave and ending up on the news is likely to make her OF blow up. Probably a win/win for her.
Probably why she said she was fine with it
I had friends in college, including one who was an ed major, who helped pay for their education by working in the local strip club. No one gave a shit because social media didn’t exist back then. But could you imagine if it got around that the student teacher was also a stripper? How dare she for some reason!
school children are underage and not allowed in strip clubs but they can access, chat, sext and do whatever with her online. It’s disturbing and unhealthy considering her role. If the genders were reversed, and a guy teacher was sexting his underage female students, it would not be ok
She wasn’t sexting her students. What are you talking about?
I think they’re saying theoretically the underage students could view her content or even interact with her without her knowing it’s them.
How would that be her fault?
I don’t think anyone is trying to calculate some kind of moral blame. They’re identifying a scenario they don’t want to happen and they’re trying to prevent it. Fault doesn’t matter.
Do you know how OF works? You get in private chats with her and can send her your pics too. …my friend told me that off course I didn’t pay someone to rate my cock and send her stuff noo no
If one of her underage students illegally got on OnlyFans, it wouldn’t be her fault any more than it would be a convenience store’s fault if an underage kid stole beer. So punishing her for something they could potentially illegally do doesn’t really make sense.
you are right, and she was not punished or sent to jail. but their board decided that if that’s her lifestyle, then her ethics are not fit for the role of teaching kids. You have to consider the view of the kids patents and the standards of role relationship of a teacher in society. For example, if a shierf cop was filmed throwing the N word around, then he’d lose his job even if his personal views never affected his job. Same here, she’s not a pervert, but whay rolemodel are we keeping around kids if that’s fine. Also consider if the genders were reversed without hypocricy
Are you really comparing having an OnlyFans account with being openly racist?
Imo this example kind of holds, yes. Why should you fire an openly racist cop if he never comitted any violation or discriminated against a black suspect before? Same here. Realistically, there’s 99% chance that her students found out, bought and interacted with her on OF already. Btw that may have a negative lasting effect on how they disrespect and view teaching figures in such a way. It’s, inappropiate, not healthy and does not fit the role of school teacher. I respect your opinion but the parents of those kids would differ
Imagine giving a shit if someone makes porn in their free time.
I had a home ec teacher that was found out to do playboy spreads. As a young teenager I did not care. My parents did not care(they were hippies). Who cared the most were dumbass older teenage boys for some reason writing her porn name on the chalkboard before she came in one day. It was like they were angry at her for turning them on. That’s when I realized men’s sex education and support for processing complex thought and feelings around relationships and sex is abysmal.
If you don’t understand or respect your emotions it isnt like you suddenly don’t have them, you still do you just don’t know what to do with them.
As a young teenager I did not care.
Were you a young teenage girl? Because you seem to completely lack understanding of teenage boys’ psychology. There’s absolutely no reason they would be angry at her for making them horny. That makes no sense at all.
I would agree with your other replier on this. Furthering that, I would say this is the teenage boys’ attempt to challenge authority by undermining her authority with her open sexuality as a tool. They found a leverage to have power over her. And they’re going to use it to the full extent. They’re at a point in time of their growth where they find their social hierarchy. Almost every male mammal engages in this. They pick fights and they learn where they stand by winning and losing. And they want to get as high as possible. This explains the anger that you pointed out, because challenging authority and fighting is inherently similar emotion to anger.
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Please let the adults who are educated continue discussing these topics. Literally everything you just said was wrong.
If you’re an adult, you should learn to address the argument, not make ad hominem attacks.
Dear kavanaugh,
Stop raping women and pretending like it’s just the beer talking.
We sincerely hate you,
Women.
You still lack the ability to address the content. You’re just spewing out things you’re familiar with. You’re not actually engaging in any discussion.
No one should rape anyone. I don’t see how this is relevant to this discussion.
Which part of what he said was wrong?
Apparently nothing. Since I’ve had 0 actual counter argument so far. All I got is name calling and starwman.
Because you seem to completely lack understanding of teenage boys’ psychology. There’s absolutely no reason they would be angry at her for making them horny. That makes no sense at all.
Ah. I see you are one of those types of bigots.
As you surely didn’t forget a whole array of other non binary genders some of which actually get beaten to death for ‘turning straight men on.’
Also some cultures will stone women for ‘turning men on enough to rape them’. That has nothing to do with ‘challenging authority’ in fact it’s gross you even compare it to that. It’s all about attacking vulnerable.
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Somebody’s gotta do it! 😁
Probably not a popular take but I can at least understand it from the perspective of it just being easier to put her on paid leave than to play whackamole punishing every kid who starts bullying her or disrespecting her because stupid teenagers.
It’s the dumbfuck no tolerance logic that inadvertently encourages kids to respond to being bullied by pulling a knife since they gettin’ punished either way for being in a fight, but it does make the twisted kind of sense you can expect from admins who hate nothing more than doing their jobs instead of sitting at their desk playing minesweeper all day.
Perpetuating the stigma isn’t going to help either. Kids take their cues from adults.
Humans are social creatures. We are affected direct and indirectly by other people whether you like it or not (unless you want to become a hikikomori).
The fact that other people give a shit about about someone making porn in their free time, should make you give a shit. This is irrelevant to whether you think they should give a shit or not. Your lack of ability to give a shit signals your lack of foresight into how this affects your life as well as lack of social skills. If she wants to be an OF model, and therefore chooses to do OF content, that’s fine. If she wants to be a teacher and thinks she can do OF without consequence, she’s stupid.
L take and completely wrong. Fuck people for not only judging for something harmless, but also for directly impacting her life because of it when she didn’t impact anyone else’s.
What part am I wrong about? Her OF account has clearly affected her job as a teacher. The evidence of what I said is right there. You’re in denial of facts of what has already occurred. If she didn’t see this coming, she’s stupid.
I don’t care if you think people shouldn’t be judgmental. You’re being judgement of me right now. And I am of you right now. People always are, always have been and always will. That’s how humans work. Your denial or calling it out as bad is irrelevant in your ability to plan for the future.
Edit: Let me be clear. I am not defending the judgmental. I am pointing out the lack of social understanding.
In that same vain then, I shouldn’t dress “slutty” in public otherwise I’m just asking to get raped right? Get fucked.
Because you couldn’t point out what was wrong, you decided to take a strawman? No, that is not the same vain. The logic isn’t consistent.
It would be: If she doesn’t want to get raped, she should take precautions based on the risks involved.
If this teacher doesn’t want to be fired, she should understand that there are risks that follow her actions.
If I follow your logic, the statement of the teacher would become:
She must’ve wanted to get fired, so she did OF. No, the predicate the consequences are backwards.
Being stupid is not a defense. And your argument is illogical.
She must have wanted to be raped or she wouldn’t have dressed like that.
No, that is not the same vain. The logic isn’t consistent.
It would be: If she doesn’t want to get raped, she should take precautions based on the risks involved.
If this teacher doesn’t want to be fired, she should understand that there are risks that follow her actions.
If I follow your logic, the statement of the teacher would become:
She must’ve wanted to get fired, so she did OF. No, the predicate the consequences are backwards.
Being stupid is not a defense. And your argument is illogical.
Victim blaming and I don’t think you know how logic works.
I did not victim blame. I wish logic and/or discrete mathematics is a requirement education in the world. Then we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Being a social creature doesn’t mean you get veto power over how others live their lives. Your justification thus falls flat as does your victim blaming argument.
When you were little, did you parents teach you to look both ways before crossing the street? Even when you’re at a stop sign or at a green light? Probably, since you’re still alive. Why did they do that? You’d be in the right. If a car hit you, you’d be the victim, 100%. But you do that anyway because being right or being the victim is completely irrelevant. It’s not about who gets the blame. It’s about what gives you the best outcome. You looking both ways before crossing the street has the best outcome for you. It doesn’t matter if you’re right if you’re fucking dead.
If she wanted the best outcome of staying as a teacher, she shouldn’t have done OF. This should be a very easy deductive logic people should be able to make given what is the current society.
This is not victim blaming. I lean quite far left, and this is one of the most insanely annoying thing I find about the left. Far too many only look about who’s the victim and whose to blame. That shit is fucking stupidest outlook on life. It’s a good goal to attain, a world without problem causing things. But unless utopia happens, you need to learn to figure out how the world works. Failure to do that simply means you’re stupid. You might be a victim, but you’re still stupid.
Your analogy is false. This is victim blaming and a gross violation of privacy. On your off time you are free to do what you want your employer is not paying you for that time.
You sound like one of those no-fap types btw.
How is my analogy false? How did I victim blame? What did I blame her of? I said nothing of such. You’re going to have to substantiate your claim.
I masterbate and have no issues others materbating. In fact I already said it’s fine if she wants to do OF.
Not on me to justify your analogy. You must really hate woman who have sexuality
If she wants to be a teacher and thinks she can do OF without consequence, she’s stupid.
This comment reeks of trying to control women’s sexuality.
Meanwhile you probably think ‘good job’ when firefighters make a topless calendar and have no qualms if they show up to put out the fires.
You smell of double standard vomit.
I’m not trying to control her sexuality. I, in fact, said it’s fine if she wants to do OF. So you have read me wrong. I pointed out people’s inability to predict the future.
You have judged me for judging on things I didn’t say. You smell of hypocrisy.
I keep wondering when the war on teachers is going to spread to my district. Given how many Republican “parent choice” signs I see up I don’t think I have long. Really would have liked my kids to go to a functional school.
I don’t care if my kids teacher does porn.
I don’t care if my kids teacher does porn.
why would you say something so controversial yet so brave
As long as it does not involve kids - why would we care?
I don’t get your point other than snark. Frankly I don’t think you get it. When some Karen causes issues it hurts everyone. It means teachers quit, it means less go in the field, it means that parent-teacher relationships are more sour.
Yes I don’t care if a teacher does porn and me not caring matters as much as the fuckface who decided to care about this! We have for some freaken reason decided that whomever gets offended is the one who makes the rules as long as they are louder than the ones not offended.
Choice for everything we’re care about the way we want it under our rules! Take it or leave it!
Hell I’d just be watching and jacking myself anyway. I wanna go to the PTA meeting, and that is like hell for me so, you know…
Imagine if we just paid teachers better so that they didn’t sometimes resort to this to make ends meet. Nah, let’s persecute the poor teacher instead!
this is america, doing anything else is communism!
The average teacher was in the bottom 20% of their class. It seems like we need to incentivize higher skilled people to teach. Pay is just part of it.
It’s hard to spend years getting a master’s degree and then to go work on a teacher’s salary. But then to be a professor, it’s another 6-8 years above and beyond a master’s to get a PhD (during which you’re making jack shit and aren’t allowed to work off campus). On top of that, higher ed is apparently ridiculously competitive and an insane amount of thankless long hours for a slightly higher shit salary than high school teachers. The whole culture around and within education needs changing. A lot of changing. It’s so disappointing.
