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From what I can see as of a couple hours ago, they’ve been bombing the south and refugee camps. So far they use this messaging as a way to corral and murder.
They’re being stopped from moving by Hamas
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Source: trust me bro.
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A few days ago there were already more Palestinian children killed by just the current Israeli bombing of Gaza that the total of Israelis killed by Hamas’ attack.
Must have been “sympathisers with a terrorist organisation”, same as the ones who will be killed and arrested when the IDF finally enacts their Gaza invasion and anexation plan. /s
What are the humanitarian aid measures done by Israel to help the affected civilians in Gaza?
Israel are activelly reducing the Palestinian needs for food, water and power (which Israel itself created) by killing them.
They send in air packages in form of rockets
Israel mesures: 🤷
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It’s a good thing we have you around to let us know what all Palestinians think
You make some strange and easily debunkable claims here.
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If “all Palestinians” cherished Hamas there wouldn’t be a Fatah or a PA.
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The Israeli right wing literally supported Hamas over Fatah in order to justify continued violence and land theft against the Palestinians. Hamas and the settlers (who are now the Israeli government) are literally feeding off each other.
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The main reason this attack succeeded was because the Gaza border was unmanned, because the current Israeli government moved the military to the West Bank in order to protect the settlers there while they commit attacks on the Palestinians there. Despite the Israeli military describing some of the actions of these settlers as a “progrom”.
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The “Muslim fundamentalists of the Levant” comprise Christians and other groups too, including Jews before this entire conflict started. There had been Jews in the Levant for millennia, despite it being under Muslim rule for 1400 years. Jews were still banned from Jerusalem under the Byzantines, until the Muslims conquered it and allowed Jews to return to the city. Jerusalem had a Jewish majority when the British took control of the place.
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I find this idea that the hatred is exclusively due to anti-Semitism to be the stupidest one Israel tries to put out there. Had Palestine been occupied by Bhuddists or atheists, you think they would not resist, or hate their occupier? Was the Viet-Cong motivated by anti-Christian values in fighting both France and the USA? How stupid are you?
I love you lemmy, this is why I’m here tkutkutku
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Not all terrorists blow themselves up. Some have a victim hood complex and lash out from imagined persecution because their life has been too privileged to accept the thought of loss.
Source: MAGA
Acktually, a MAGA did blow itself up!
Collective punishment is a crime against humanity.
Fatah is still in power in the west bank, you make it sound like they disappeared.
You realize this argument is just as fascist as “all jews across the world want to control the global finances”?
No but you see that’s their fascists saying things, not our fascists saying things. If ours say things they must obviously be true because they don’t like them.
All palestinian across this world cherish the Hamas party rule
That statement is literally fascist. Not figuratively, not allegorically, not approximately, but precisely fascist.
Apart from the centuries of coexistence before Israel came along.
More war crimes
I am getting the feeling that Israel (aka US) is creating more terrorists on purpose. If my entire family was killed and I survived I would be out for blood. I think anyone would.
Is this done just an excuse for the US to re-insert itself in a middle eastern conflict so our tax dollars can enrich the military industrial complex? Sure seems like it
We created our enemies in the Middle East, they would have no reason to hate us if we didn’t.
Setting aside the US for a moment, I think Israel’s embattled condition has always helped the Zionist cause. Being in a state of crisis binds the Israeli people together and draws foreign aid. There’s also a draw for Jewish people around the world to go defend the homeland. All of this draws in people and money to Israel. And of course it creates the martial conditions for them to forcibly exclude millions of Arabs from their “democracy.” If Israel had been peaceably founded and there was no separation with Gaza / the West Bank then Israel likely would have stopped being a Jewish majority, Jewish controlled state long ago. Now that their society is affluent and developed, they’re having a harder time keeping up on birth rates too. You can get people to have 8 kids on a farming kibbutz. Gen-Z ravers with tech jobs? Not so much.
Not sure why we need a reason, or to keep up a front.
No one looks at the war and says, “i really think itd be swell if the US got involved”
If its about momey or whatever, i feel like the people in power could just… invade? No need for fronts?
I’m stoned, and no simple explanation will be accurate.
But it basically works like this.
Invade -> Resources?
Yes -> take if non renewable. Banana Republic if renewable. Create enemies.
No -> create enemies.
Stir up tension with enemies neighbors and enemies.
Sell arms to one/both.
Play hero by putting a stop to this militant terrorist communist et ceteras.
Profit.
Here comes more genocidal rhetoric out of Israel.
Man Israel Palestine threads are pure reactionary nonsense anymore
This is like watching sports. Everyone picks a team and after that nothing else matters than your team winning. If the opposing team gets a red card for nothing it’s good and if your team gets one for a good reason it’s bad. It’s especially true in this case since there’s almost nothing you can blame the other side for having done that the other haven’t.
He question here if all Palestinians are moving south whats to stop hamas moving with them and just leaving the north
Their rockets don’t have the range to hit Israel from the south end of Gaza and that’s probably where the majority of their tunnel infrastructure is at too.
Thats exactly what Isreal wants. Then they can destroy the tunnels and rocket launch sites.
Nothing but that’s the ideal. You can hunt Intel. Implode tunnels. Setup larger dmz
They are preparing for ethnic cleansing
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If You Get Hit, It’s Your Own Fault (The Simpsons) - From season 6 episode 8: Lisa on Ice
While it’s not as ideal as you might like, there’s nothing really wrong with just posting a link. Half the fun is in the surprise.
We’re just chatting on the internet, it’s impractical to expect every comment to be deeply thought out and fully constructed. Sometimes you just want to share something relevant and move on to the next thread. It’s not like they masked a url with another or anything; any anger is unwarranted.
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Lmfao you just came in and downvoted me at the same time as I finally conceded and accepted having a little edit mark on my comment.
I couldn’t think of a better way to phrase it when I wrote the comment, but yes, “angry” would be an excessive description of your comment. Not quite so excessive with your latest comment, though :P
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Lmao I’m just teasing you, also I haven’t been downvoting you but upvoted your last comment. I respect your different opinion and mean no malice.
If I posted what it was, it would have ruined the joke. What’s to get mad about?
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In a republic, representatives in power are elected by the general populace. Their decisions represent the will of the citizenry.
Hamas was freely elected by the people of Gaza in 2006. Their actions did and continue to represent the will of the citizenry. If they didn’t, they would not still be in positions of elected authority.
So, in a war of aggression by a democratic state, voting age adults are just as responsible for the actions of their country as the combatants they indirectly sent to harm others.
Gazan adults are either fighting Hamas, or they support Hamas. And I haven’t read ANYTHING about Gazans against Hamas taking up arms to free their country from that elected group.
That means that you are personally liable for the 1 Million dead civilians from our unconstitutional war in the middle east.
Using this logic you are fair game for a terrorist attack, and would deserve it.
50% of the population was not born yet during the most recent election where Hamas gained power (16 years ago)
Stop parroting this bullshit and think for yourself
I AM responsible. This is how democracy works. You are responsible for your own governance. Why don’t you think for yourself? You can’t vote for your government to kill others, and take zero responsibility.
So edgy. Hand yourself over to Al-Qaeda or ISIS since you are responsible. I will buy your plane ticket for you.
Nope, just because I’m part of a wide, very diluted group collectively responsible doesn’t mean I think I am wrong. I am happy for voting representatives into power who used military force against Al-Qaida and ISIS. Fuck them.
No you are going to the Middle East, send me a DM so we can get the plane ticket purchased
Put your money where your mouth is coward
But America isn’t a democracy, it’s a republic.
And even then, people don’t vote on military decisions.
Due to the Israeli blockade of goods and travel, these people were happy if they can survive the day to day. let alone fight a regime that even the 4th strongest army in the world is failing to control. But sure, it’s their own fault.
50% of the population of Gaza is 15 or lower. The majority of the people there never voted for Hamas.
Hey, you cannot say that here! It doesn’t fit the general narrative. What are you thinking? /s
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why are you thinking that?
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No, they’re not.
Neo-Nazis are actually quite pro-Hamas, their hatred of Jews and queers exceeds their hatred of muslims. You can verify this yourself by visiting pol or any other neo-nazi site.
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😂
Name calling. And all of the sudden you’re right! But hey, you forgot “bigot” from your answer, we all know you’re not truly right until you call me a bigot!
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