• LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    “Clearly in their late teens,” lol no. And since AI doesn’t have age, it’s possible that was seeded with the face of a 15yr old and that they really are 15 for all intents and purposes.

    Obviously there’s a difference with AI porn vs real, that’s why I told you to search AI in the first place??? The convo isn’t about AI porn, but AI porn uses images to seed their new images including CSAM

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      2 days ago

      was seeded with the face of a 15yr old and that they really are 15 for all intents and purposes.

      That’s…not how AI image generation works? AI image generation isn’t just building a collage from random images in a database - the model doesn’t have a database of images within it at all - it just has a bunch of statistical weightings and net configuration that are essentially a statistical model for classifying images, being told to produce whatever inputs maximize an output resembling the prompt, starting from a seed. It’s not “seeded with an image of a 15 year old”, it’s seeded with white noise and basically asked to show how that white noise looks like (in this case) “woman porn miniskirt”, then repeat a few times until the resulting image is stable.

      Unless you’re arguing that somewhere in the millions of images tagged “woman” being analyzed to build that statistical model is probably at least one person under 18, and that any image of “woman” generated by such a model is necessarily underage because the weightings were impacted however slightly by that image or images, in which case you could also argue that all drawn images of humans are underage because whoever drew it has probably seen a child at some point and therefore everything they draw is tainted by having been exposed to children ever.

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        11 hours ago

        Yes, it is seeded with kids’ faces, including specific children like someone’s classmate. And yes, those children, all of them, who it uses as a reference to make a generic kid face, are all being abused because it’s literally using their likeness to make CSAM. That’s quite obvious.

        It would be different if the AI was seeding models from cartoons, but it’s from real images.

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          3 hours ago

          OK, so this is just the general anti-AI image generation argument where you believe any image generated is in some meaningful way a copy of every image analyzed to produce the statistical model that eventually generated it?

          I’m surprised you’re going the CSAM route with this and not just arguing that any AI generated sexually explicit image of a woman is nonconsensual porn of literally every woman who has ever posted a photo on social media.

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            2 hours ago

            No, I am not saying that.

            I’m saying if an AI image is sexual and seeded from irl child models, then it is CSAM.

            Adult women who consensually post their image to social media are WAY different than children who can’t consent to even enter a contract.

            Also, I did argue that already when I mentioned how many AI porn models are directly seeded from Scarlett Johansson’s face. Can you read?

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      7 days ago

      It’s fucking AI, the face is actually like 3 days old because it is NOT A REAL PERSON’S FACE.

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        7 days ago

        We aren’t even arguing about this, you giant creep who ALWAYS HAS TO GO TO BAT FOR THIS TOPIC REPEATEDLY.

        It’s meant to LOOK LIKE a 14 yr old because it is SEEDED OFF 14 YR OLDS so it’s indeed CHILD PORN that is EASILY ACCESSED ON GOOGLE per the original commenter claim that people have to be going to dark places to see this - NO, it’s literally in nearly ALL AI TOP SEARCHES. And it indeed counts for LEGAL PURPOSES in MOST STATES as child porn even if drawn or created with AI. How many porn AI models look like Scarlett Johansson because they are SEEDED WITH VER FACE. Now imagine who the CHILD MODELS are seeding from

        You’re one of the people I am talking about when I say Lemmy has a lot of creepy pedos on it FYI to all the readers, look at their history

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          7 days ago

          I’m offended by stupid-ass shit and feel compelled to call it out. Thinking AI-generated fake images is just as harmful as actual children getting abused is perhaps the most obvious definition of “stupid-ass shit” since the invention of stupid-ass shit.