Black Mirror creator unafraid of AI because it’s “boring”::Charlie Brooker doesn’t think AI is taking his job any time soon because it only produces trash

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    Movie and TV executives don’t care about boring. Reality shows are boring. They just care if they make money.

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        Depends on the ai though. With koboldcpp you can make memories for the ai to come back with. Even text personalities (like bitchy and sassy responses) when using tavernai together with kobold.

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        This. You have to baby it and then if you want it to do something different you have to tell it a hundred times in a hundred different ways before it stops producing the same stuff with the same structure with slight differences. It is a nightmare.

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        I agree, but at some point it will advance to the level where it can write boring, predictable scripts.

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          I mean it’s literally never “computer bad” / “technology bad” it’s always Humans bad, using this technology this time.

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        I thought this season was way better than the season before it. I was glad they went with something different like the horror theme. The season prior was a shit show of boring tropes.

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      I just recently started rewatching some of the older episodes and I realized that “Be RIght Back” was inadvertently an LLM episode. Having a computer absorb the online presence of a loved one to allow you to talk with them after they’ve passed is honestly something that seems within reach for these models.

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    “I was frightened a second ago; now I’m bored because this is so derivative.” - Me, while watching some of the Black Mirror episodes, proudly made by fellow humans.

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    I’m not to worried about AI. Isn’t the next iteration of GPT closed source? Technology is made best as a research or passion project, but once profits become the focus everything goes down hill. That and when you consider the global supply chain required to manufacture the chips that AI depends on, well things aren’t looking too great in that department.

    Tl;DR humans will shit all over the prospect of scary intelligent AI well before we get there.

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      “Open”AI is entirely proprietary and closed-source.

      Meta’s Llama series are kind of open source, but don’t publish the weights and so can’t really be reproduced with full accuracy without a ton of manual effort.

      These and many other companies in the hype-space are using the same published research from a few years ago, which is why they have similar qualities.

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    Did he not watch the latest season? Fuck, one episode was literally devoid of scifi entirely. Latest season only had one good ep in it.

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        Eh, I never bought this. The show has always been wildly uneven. The first season was very strong with two great episodes but the first episode is not great. The second season is pretty bad overall with the exception of Be Right Back. White Christmas was a good one off. The first Netflix season had some really strong showings with Nosedive, Shut Up And Dance and my personal favorite of the whole series San Junipero. I even thought season 4 was pretty decent overall. Also, banderanatch was actually pretty cool, especially if you really dug into all the paths.

        The last 2 seasons, 5 & 6 were pretty bad overall with only one good episode each and some particularly bad ones. But honestly Charlie is probably just running out of ideas and I can’t really blame him at this point. I suspect he’s just trying different things. Sometimes big swings work and sometimes you just get Mazey Day.

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          I really, really could not get behind the premise that the PM of the UK would fuck a pig to save a princess.

          In the real world, it would have been “we do not make deals with terrorists” and that would be that, ratings be damned. Like holy shit, did he start with a completely unrealistic premise.

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          I think he’s trying to steal the lightning from the episodes that resonated well with the audiences to make new episodes and it’s just not hitting quite as hard.

          The old formula was amazing stories meets Twilight zone meets tales from the crypt we’re 8 out of 10 times the protagonist gets right fucked for just trying to be a good person.

          It feels to me like the take away from san junipero was that people like happy endings so they’re trying to apply it to everything

          The reason you got Maisy day is because he got access to Miley Cyrus and had to write something that she would be happy with.

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          Nah. Even season 3 there’s a distinct lack of “okay this is supremely fucked up” that you got in series 1 and 2. There’s some fantastic episodes in the first couple netflix seasons, but they dialed back the dread factor in favor of exploring new sci fi concepts. Not complaining, but the og channel 4 episodes are way darker.

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          It comes down to what you like about the show. Do you like the darker sides of technology that raises questions? Seasons 1 and 2 are great. Do you like sci-fi happy endings with a better production value? The Netflix seasons are better.

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          my personal favorite of the whole series San Junipero.

          Me too. It’s literally the only episode I rewatched. 🙌

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        I thought it was a Netflix original 😂

        Where did this tv show aired then if not Netflix?

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    Maybe the 5th episode of the 6th season was written by an AI and they were playing some 4D chess game all along with our minds, because otherwise, I wonder how such fucking trash got the green light to be produced 🤗

    Edit: Typo

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      This. I think the only one I really thought was good was the Aaron Paul one where they went into space… I might be someone neo-ludditish but that movie shows some true terrors of those who want to eradicate technologies and the individuals associated with them. Cold ending…

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        By far my favorite episode of this season, it felt like a refreshing scifi 50’s comic, it felt like reading something new from asimov. The retro-aesthetic was a nice artistic decision to tell us that tech doesn’t have to be super advanced to tell a good story. On top of this, they subverted my expectations at least 3 times:

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        First, when the guy who draws sees the wife of aaron, I immediately though the story would be that she cheats on him and they both play mindgames on aaron who eventually looses his family. But no, she does feel something about the other guy but to my surprise, never cheats on aaron

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        When the guy started to paint the house I though that “of course, he paints the wife naked because they have sex, and then aaron discovers this”. Indeed it happens, but interestingly, not because the other astronaut had sex with aaron’s wife

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        By the end it was veeery clear to me that the other guy will either kill aaron, or trap him in some way to take control of him and live his life. It was obvious to me that the other astronaut was going to eject aaron from the ship an cast him away in space to then report that aaron had gone missing on space. I was extreeemely confident about this in the scene where the door is taking long to be opened, but no. Actually, yes, the other guy fucks aaron, but by killing his family so that he learns to value what he has, I found that quite unexpected and interesting

        What I didn’t get from the episode was what they were tying to tell with the child, I’m not sure what is that meant to communicate

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    Lmao black mirror feels like it was written by an AI so quite a statement

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    It’s only producing trash now. Already there is a decent jump in quality from GPT-3 to 4, and it’s only gonna get better.

    Plus it can do a lot of heavy lifting – tell it to make 20 scripts with different prompts and then a single writer or team can Whittle them down. That’s how a lot of scripts end up in production anyways, but now you ain’t gotta deal with writers and can make rapid, drastic changes

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      I also find the “just look how bad the hands are heh heh heh” thing so dumb … it’s going to learn how to draw hands pretty quickly

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      The problem atm it’s that chat gpt has pretty terrible memory. It couldn’t write a coherent show if it wanted to

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    Didn’t he just make an episode of Black Mirror depicting the opposite?