What has been merged so far. https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/merge_requests?scope=all&state=all&search=winewayland
What has been merged so far. https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/merge_requests?scope=all&state=all&search=winewayland
I just hope to one day be able to install MS Office 2021 and use older software under Wine without having to spend days patching and installing stuff. Is it too much to ask? Apparently it is.
That’s because Linux is meant to run Linux software… Wine should only be used as a last resort. When it comes to production software we should focus on improving our open alternatives and making them suitable for more users to migrate to our ecosystem, thus, creating demand for Adobe software or MS Office to be ported, or they might not even be needed by then
I need MS Office and Open/Libre/OnlyOffice won’t cut it. If ones lives in a bubble and doesn’t have to collaborate with others, then native Linux apps might work and you might even get a decent workflow but once you’ve to collaborate with others who use Windows/Mac it’s game over. The “alternatives” aren’t just up to it.
Anyone who want a simple Virtual Machine and have to go thought cumbersome installation procedures like this one just to reach the end and have error messages saying virtualization isn’t enable when, in fact, it is… or trying to use GNOME Boxes and have a sub-par virtualization experience.
Even finding a decent and working FTP/SFTP/FTPS desktop client (similar WinSCP or Cyberduck) is an impossible task as there a few, but they all fail even at basic stuff like dragging and dropping a file.
Linux desktop is great, I love it but I don’t sugar coat. Windows licenses are cheap and you get things working out of the box. Software runs fine, all vendors support whatever you’re trying to do and you’ll be productive from day zero. There are annoyances from time to time, sure, but they’re way fewer and simpler to deal with than the hoops you’ve to go through to get a minimal and viable/productive Linux desktop experience.
It all comes down to a question of how much time (days? months?) you want spend fixing things on Linux that simply work out of the box under Windows for a minimal fee. Buy a Windows license and spend the time you would’ve spent dealing with Linux issues doing your actual job and you’ll, most likely, get a better ROI.
But that’s why I said we should improve upon these alternatives tho, they are certainly not perfect and I never said they could replace Windows software currently
Today’s reality is that most people (aka everyone) depends on these proprietary piece of software that are not avaiable on Linux, Adobe’s and Microsoft’s being the main ones.
But I believe that by focusing on improving and showing people that these alternatives exists and can be useable would help them slowly migrate to our open platforms, maybe even making proprietary software be ported to Linux.
When it comes to production software, THATS what we need, native Linux apps, and WINE does not solve that issue, so seeing it as a possible solution for running your production software (like Office 2021) will unsurprisingly cause days of fixing your stuff, while native Linux apps on the other hand, GIMP, Libreoffice, Inkscape, all work out of the box
ssh can be your best friend. Apart from the fact it can give you secure admin access to the device and its files from virtually anything, your phone, another computer…
It also offers you the added one liner tools like sshfs for adding remote drives which act as they are mounted locally… then you get the best expeirence in my opinion better than winscp, because it feels native.
It isn’t better than WinSCP, is it way worse as Nautilus is way less flexible and has less features. And it isn’t as practical, at all. And not everything is SSH either.
Not in my experience. I dont use nautilus… You should maybe look at improving your shitty network than complaining about the tools you dont know how to use.
Why do you need MS office?
Because I have to work with other people who use MS Office.
And …?
And… I can’t afford to have documents screwed up because Libre/Open/OnlyOffice aren’t the real deal… and I need to use MS Teams, Excel, Project and have data flowing between each other and Dynamics Nav. All those things Linux native Office solutions can’t do, nor Office Online and certainly not Wine.
Ahh tracking. I’ve never seen a work flow that used data flowing well between MS products. I’ve never had an incompatibility issue yet either, but I believe it, certainly on excel, that program can be a beast.
Here is how Office 2019 (not even the latest) performs on Wine out of the box:
Very helpful. What’s that fucked up char anyways? :D
Once I managed to get 2019 running however it was slow and glitchy. There was some flickering on the UI and moving objects on Word was mostly impossible.
deleted by creator
there is also the web MS Office version.
Which sucks btw, it is sometimes as bad as libreoffice at being compatible with office (desktop) documents… 🙄