The Vatican teaches that homosexuals must be treated with dignity and respect but that homosexual acts are “intrinsically disordered.”
Isn’t it weird how Catholic “radical inclusion” is wildly insulting and still less inclusive than secular society?
Love thy neighbor. Except this one. And this one. And those over there. And so on.
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I take your meaning, but the amount they’ve spent lobbying various governments on the issue does make it literally their business.
They’re acting like the schism isn’t already guaranteed. A not insignificant portion of Catholics look to the episcopal church as leaders on issues like lgbt treatment and women’s leadership. Meanwhile another not insignificant portion of Catholics look to the medieval church as a role model on such issues and have issues with Catholic stances on things like the death penalty, global poverty, and the environment.
The fact is that the liberation theologists, Catholic workers, and other branches of the Catholic left are just not following the same religion as groups like the Catholics who control the American Supreme Court, the neofrancoists, and those who still say mass in Latin. And stuck in the middle are folks like Joe Biden, many Jesuits, and pope Francis who understand that the Catholic Church has a lot of value in its stability but does need to change to reflect the times and isn’t in a stable position.
The schism is all but official. The question is which side gets to keep the pope, how many pieces are left, and how radical each is.
Anecdotal but all of the Catholics I know have either converted to the episcopal church or they just never go to mass or talk about it but say they’re catholic so grandma doesn’t get sad. You go to mass, and there are no young people whatsoever. I don’t have hard data to back this up but it seems like the Catholic Church in the US could just collapse before a significant schism reaches us.
Oh full agreement, I’m ex Catholic myself (pagan now but it wasn’t a direct conversion). And yeah that’s what Francis was for and what he’s trying to do. There are still young Catholics and I’d break them into two groups: religiously inclined people who like theological rigor or ritual and were probably raised Catholic, and those who find value in regressive traditionalism. The former tend to convert to something like episcopalianism if their values drive them from the church. The latter on the other hand drive more people from regular Catholic attendance
I thought they claimed the pope is infallible so how can they challenge him?
by the old and trusted “Screw you and your church. I’ll go make my own own but with straight people and alter boys”
Because they know it’s all a lie?
but people are going to call them out on the bullshit. if they didn’t care about appearances they would probably show up more frequently in close proximity to childrens.
NB: The current title of the article is :
Pope suggests blessings for same-sex unions possible in response to 5 conservative cardinals
Changed the title. Long live Lemmy, it’s not perfect but at least we can do this haha
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Indeed, death to Reddit, long live Lemmy! 😛 It’s gotten really awesome for a decentralised volunteer run & donations based system. 👏👏👏
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Will be interesting to watch the discussion to this in the comments. Especially as an atheist.
This just in: Easter bunny says same sex unions can also receive blessings
Do gay people really care about being blessed by the Pope? Pedos I can imagine might have some affinity towards the Catholic church, but gays, Nah.
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Because of those pesky human rights that mandate “freedom of religion” or whatever.
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I mean it kinda does with the whole “freedom of expression” thing it has.
I could be wrong on this, but that’s how I interperted it.
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No clue about the constitution, since I am not american, but it would be logical to think that the religous can rule as long as they don’t break other human rights.
