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    1. They sue and go after emulation projects/ROM sites for modern content just as much as Microsoft and Sony do, MS/Sony just get a pass for some reason. Probably because people try to pirate current-gen content less for them, but they do the exact same thing every time it happens. Nintendo (and, it must be said, MS/Sony) don’t really go after the old stuff for the most part. Also, it must be said that several times that emu/ROM sites were shut down and Nintendo was blamed it turned out it wasn’t actually Nintendo. Same thing with that whole streaming copystrike issue- turns out it was some random company taking down gameplay videos, not Nintendo.

    2. Sony already does this too, yet again they pretty much universally get a pass for making you permanently lose almost all (if not all) your stuff if you let your sub lapse. Even if you resub, you don’t get it back.

    3. In my opinion this is just a bad faith argument. Of course they’re not putting their games on PC, they would cannibalize their own sales. Trying to pretend that you should boycott Nintendo for not actively destroying their own economic model is certainly A Take.

    4. Entirely fair. My understanding is that they’re getting better at this, but after the shitshow that was brawl that’s a low fucking bar. I could point out that smash bros isn’t actually Nintendo (it was HAL, then Sora, then Bandai) but like… lets be real here, it’s Sakurai running the show, and Sakurai basically is working for Nintendo even if he isn’t employed there lol.




  • There’s also just a substantial number of people that were just astroturfers, I think.

    There’s been a LOT of crazy attacks on the switch 2 to try to ‘justify’ a boycott. I think my two favorite was that the gamechat button noise when you hit is actually saying saying a slur, or maybe that the rumble turns off after a while not to protect your hands from the rumble (which has been found to be bad for you), but because Nintendo cheaped out on a rumble motor that overheated too easily.

    The switch 2 joycons don’t have a rumble motor. Like, it’s a whole thing they’re super proud of, because it’s so precise they just use the rumble really fast to play music instead of having a speaker.

    Honestly, the whole idea of trying to boycott nintendo has pretty much always been over astroturfed bullshit, or just outright bullshit.







  • It’s true- it’s well known that hall effect sensors are magnetically sensitive and do poorly in handhelds (like the steam deck, ROG ally, or joycons on a docked switch) for that exact reason- they can basically only be used in standalone controllers. More to the point, since the HD rumble is magnetically actuated, there’s even more interference than just the main system itself + the connector system. You CAN try to account for that interference, but why would you do that when…

    Hall effect sensors actually have some major downsides- they have poorer centering, increased power draw, the aforementioned magnetic interference issues, the fact they don’t actually solve stick drift, and finally and most concerningly- they have a REALLY low poll rate. I was able to notice the difference when playing celeste with a buddy’s hall effect controllers, for example.

    More to the point, gulikit is definitely engaging in some corporate double-speak here- the switch 2 joy cons use the same analog stick design… that basically every game company has used for decades. NOT the same sticks as the switch 1 joycons. They’re completely different, Nintendo went back to the ‘standard’ design instead of the ‘short’ design that caused the problem in the switch 1.


  • Probably entirely the former. Nintendo’s got a history of being overzealous with user health (cough constant game interuptions to tell you to take a break cough), and prolonged vibrations ARE bad for your hands (though I imagine no amount of game controller rumble could actually cause health issues), but the ‘motors overheating’ thing is entirely silly…

    Because the rumble in the joycon2s don’t have a motor. There’s nothing to overheat, it’s a magnetically actuated disk weight. Like, it’s a whole thing they’re super proud about and have advertised, they can move the weight so precisely using the magnetic actuation that they don’t even have a speaker in the joycons, they literally just run the rumble faster so it acts like a speaker cone to make sounds/music with it. There’s actually a pretty cool demo for it in the switch 2 welcome tour.


  • Yeah.

    There’s actual things Nnintendo could do better, but this weird smear campaign I’ve been seeing is just… weird.

    People are inventing issues with nonexistent hardware components, claiming the gamechat button noise when pressed says a slur, claiming the joycon2s have the same stick drift issue solely because they aren’t hall effect sensors (despite nintendo outright stating they rebuilt the stick from the ground up for the joycon2, and the design nintendo is using for the new sticks being the same design literally every gaming company has been using for decades with no issues), claiming that switch 2 ports are going to be switch 1 carts with an upgrade code in them, etc etc.

    Like… guys, focus on real problems to get attention to them in hopes of them getting fixed, not just made up bs.







  • It’s a known and proven shit solution. Have any of you ever actually used hall effect sensor joysticks? The centering is worse, the polling rate is far worse, they use a ton more power (already a limited resource in the individual joycons) and most of all they get absolutely screwed by electromagnetic interference… Interference like, say, magnets holding the joycons on.

    Ifixit is kind of full of shit here- the joysticks are the “same” only in that it’s using the same general design as every other non-hall effect sensor joystick that’s ever been used and most of those didn’t have problems with drift.

    It’s not the same part as the original joycons, so the issue could be fixed- from what the switch welcome tour was saying, it seems pretty likely in fact.