it confuses me why so few people see it that way

Willful ignorance fuelled by religious indoctrination that getting out of your head is immoral.

Indeed, alcohol can be a problematic drug and is much more dangerous than most illicit drugs but do you assume that everyone who has a drink is doing so because they have a drinking problem?

Yeah but then how would the rich and powerful feel good about themselves?

“Increase social service programs so that we address the reason why they’re homeless and doing drugs in the first place.”

Doing drugs doesn’t imply a problem. UNODC estimates that only 10-15% of drug use is problematic. It’s not reasonable to assume that drug use is an escape from problems, any more than drinking alcohol.

4K/UHD discs need to phone home in order to get decryption keys on a per disc basis

Is that true for hardware players? I’ve only seen people talking about software players like Power DVD having to get keys from the Internet.

4k players

Are you talking about software players or 4k decks?

there is simply too much at stake

OUR MONAYS!1!!!

Switching to the Euro was never a requirement for EU membership, though.

As I understand it, adopting the Euro is now a requirement for joining the EU but there are no deadlines for the adoption. I believe Poland at least is obligated to adopt the Euro (but they haven’t and show no signs of doing so).

It would be pretty great wouldn’t it?

No. It would be the opposite of great.

If you believe that hateful, harmful ideas shouldn’t be challenged

I don’t see any challenging, just flailing.

scoreboard

Oh dear.

“Oh, I’m spreading rhetoric that hurts people? Why are you even responding to it, then?”

That’s not really a fair characterisation of the situation given that they said elsewhere:

“Later dude. This isn’t going to be productive.”

That’s a ridiculous distinction

I’m not sure what distinction you’re referring to. I don’t care either.

Edit: for that matter, I’m mystified as to why you are continuing to engage with me if you genuinely believe that I am victim blaming. Unless you don’t genuinely believe I am victim blaming, in which case why would you accuse me of that. Despicable.

I never got a nude pic, but I 100% know/knew some guys that were probably like this

So… you never encountered this yourself then?

get together and make a raid/foray into one of these manosphere forums, supporting each other’s arguments and shooting down sexist crap

Such behaviour is called “brigading” and it’s very much frowned upon.

Misandry is when someone says men who believe women shouldn’t be allowed to vote are abusive.

That’s not what I said. I said there’s a difference between being an asshole and being abusive and if OP can’t see and acknowledge that difference then they’re engaging in misandry. I didn’t say anything about voting rights and misandry. Please don’t put words in my mouth or misrepresent what I say.

you are defending and engaging in victim blaming

LOL bye now

Women in relationships with assholes who believe they should have no rights

Firstly, the original commenter who described the kind of relationship we’re discussing didn’t say “no rights” they said “shouldn’t be allowed to vote” which is a very much more limited view than what you’re raging against.

are always being abused by the aforementioned asshole.

That’s not the situation that was described by the original commenter. Just because someone is an asshole and has reprehensible views, doesn’t necessarily mean that they are abusive. There’s a difference and if you can’t see and acknowledge that difference then you’re just engaging in misandry. In which case, best of luck, take care, bye now.

Have you forgotten the entire context of this thread?

Nope.

Did you even glance at the article?

I read every word.

They also talked about … a man who doesn’t want his partner to vote

That is not what they talked about. They said “men who genuinely claim that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote”. That is not the same thing as a man who displays controlling behaviour over their partner.

Can you really not infer anything from that?

There’s no need for anyone to infer anything in this discussion, it’s quite clear and explicit what people are talking about.

I don’t understand your argument and you haven’t addressed the issue at hand.

Please spell out for me why a woman in a relationship with a man who believes that women shouldn’t have the right to vote, can’t exit that relationship?

Victims of abuse are victims

Note that the person you responded to didn’t mention abuse, you introduced the term “abuse”. We’re talking about women in relationships with assholes, not abused women.

I am aware of the reality that banning trans people doesn’t stop abuse.

It seems like you’re talking about something different. Originally, you were talking about cis people who thought banning trans people would stop their husbands, etc., being abusive. In other words, that banning trans people would stop all abuse. It seems like what you’re talking about here is something different: not all abuse but only some abuse.

the people who genuinely believe this may react upon learning their problems have not been magically solved

Why do you think there are people who believe that banning trans people will stop all abuse?