This is a great initiative, and Ross did an incredible effort, and i hope this second wind gets the petitions the signatures they need.

Infinite respect for Ross, he can truly say he did everything he could do.

Haven’t heard much about that yet, indeed also sounds bad. But it’s anycubic so who cares :p.

But yeah, it’s indeed not the best trend. But it also up to open source to actually compete with this, and not just chase shiny features, but also usability…

Just wondering, is this “trend” you’re talking about just the Bambulab situation, or are other manufacturers doing the same? I’m not super up to date on 3d printing news, so not sure if i missed more such changes.

If it’s the bambulab situation, it’s not entirely unexpected. When they started people were already worried about exactly this seeing how closed their ecosystem is. Then again, they did make a printer that just works better than the competition, and that’s in the end what attracts users.

Personally i have diy 3d printers that i built myself, really happy with them, but for people who just want to print things, many other filament printers are just too annoying to work with. Not everyone is into diy, and many people just want to make cool stuff and not care about the printer, and bambulab really made the next step towards achieving that.

So if the open source community wants to compete with that, they must make printers that are as user friendly. My diy 3d printers are like running linux. Really great and customizable if you like to work on 3d printers, and really reliable now i as an expert built & tuned them. But most people just want to buy a machine that works, and that’s not these open source printers. And as long as we just focus on making 3d printers for expert diy’ers, we’ll end up in the same place as linux is for OS’es: used by experts and for specific advanced usecases, but beyond reach for the common user that’s then stuck on systems like apple/windows that are more locked down, but actually just work without having to understand how the entire thing works.

Indeed, that’s why i hate it that so many people here are raging about this while it’s something both sides are doing…

I get all the Trump & conservatives hate, but sometimes this community is raging over something that’s just done by both sides… So being outraged about it is pretty hypocritical…

Is indeed a fine example. Keeps raising the same questions: is it ok to rewrite books? We’re supposed to be outraged when maga does it, but it’s ok if we do it?

Indeed

And that also bothers me about threads like this… both sides in the USA seem to be guilty of this, so to now call it propaganda & nazism when the right is doing it… It’s of course true, but the left wing is doing the exact same, so you can’t really be that outraged… You’re both doing the same thing :s

Ah yeah, going for the insult rather than engaging with a difficult talking point…

I for sure hate trans people when i say it’s hypocritical to complain about the right wing changing books to fit what they view as correct, when the left wing is doing the exact same (strange… my point isn’t even about trans people it seems… how peculiar).

I haven’t even said that i have a problem with more gender neutral language, i just gave it as en example of what it’s about since the parent post was all about hate speech, (and there was some issue with that too in his childrens books, but afaik hardly any).

And i focused on that because OP made it sound as if just hate speech was being targetted, not rewriting old works to fit very left wing desires about how gender is mentioned.

But the question remains: if the right does it, it’s Nazism, when the left does it, it’s… <???> (at least totally not Nazism, because when we do something that we claim is blatant Nazism when the others do it, it’s ok, because obviously, we’re not Nazis, even when we do things that we call out as blatantly Nazism when others do it).

(and why am i trying to call this out: because i hate hypocrisy & polarization. It’s fair to disagree with that, but then calling it Nazism and being all wronged about it while the American left wing is doing the exact same, and then get’s called out the exact same by de maga idiots… That’s just stupid on both sides, and i’d prefer our side to be genuine and honest, and not be all offended when others do the same thing they’re doing)

I have honestly no clue what you’re trying to say???

If you read the wiki page i linked, it’s about changing his books after his death, so not things about when he was still alive? Is also not about a ban? Did you even read the wiki? It literally starts with "Puffin Books, the children’s imprint of the British publisher Penguin Books, expurgated various works by British author Roald Dahl in 2023, sparking controversy. "

And you’re talking about hate against races, but the wiki talks about removing the word queer (which used to just be a synonym for strange), removing all kinds of gendered language (not sons & daughters, but children, etc…). So rewriting the books to fit your narrative.

My argumentation is simple: the right wing can’t change books, but the leftwing can? Both sides seem to be trying to rewrite history, that’s all. Whether what’s in the books is acceptable or not, who cares. If the book is no longer appropriate, don’t read it but complaining about the other side rewriting books seems hypocritical. That’s all. You can just not recommend books to readers and suggest more modern alternatives that are more appropriate, or read the old works taking in mind the era they were written in.

Honest question, how is this different from the left doing the same? Take this for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roald_Dahl_revision_controversy

As an outsider, it seems the USA is currently in a culture war, and neither side minds burning & changing the books they deem offensive?

I’m all for the Trump hate, what’s happening there is insane, but the American left wing being bothered by books being changed seems pretty hypocritical seeing recent events…

You’re confusing UX with UI. UX = user experience, the entire experience, UI = the interface. UX is the entire user experience, and for example for joining reddit, you go to reddit.com and join. For lemmy you learn there are dozens of large instances, with intricate politics between them and if you join the wrong one everyone thinks you’re a tankie…

That’s terrible and i can imagine people are put off by it.

The interface of lemmy itself is indeed ok, and is close to old reddit, which at least the people here prefer.

So do you now acknowledge you’re lying, or are you defending what you said, because it’s sounds like you’re trying to go both ways at the same time.

However, it’s very Trumpian of you to be like “it’s only illegal if i think it’s illegal”. Alas, that’s not how the world and truth works… even if the big boss is making it seem that way.

We get your message, but you eplicitly said he didn’t break the law, while he clearly did.

That doesn’t mean people agree with him being detained by ICE, but he clearly broke the law, and for some reason you were like “no he didn’t”.

He did, why were you lying about that??

What else would you want to use something like teams for??

They’ll probably do that, but that’s assuming we aren’t past the point of diminishing returns.

The current LLM’s are pretty basic in how they work, and it could be that with the current training we’re near what they’ll ever be capable of. They’ll of course invest a billion in training a new generation, but if it’s only marginally better than the current one, they won’t keep investing billions into it if it doesn’t really improve the results.

That’s the claim, it has apparently been trained using a fraction of the compute power of the GPT models and achieves similar results.

If you need far less computing power to train the models, far less gpus are needed, and that hurts nvidia

Then you’re on purpose just not reading my argument, and you’re avoiding replying to any of the points i make.

Thanks for the tiny bit of genuine discussion, and have fun trolling other people.

So his own company is his sponsor (the company that existed long before he had any meaningful amount of viewers, and that has a good reputation because he does good work)

And his current employer is also his “sponsor”.

You might want to look up what the word sponsor means.

And even if you had a point (which you don’t), you’re still refusing to answer why MKB is ok for you while any incentive you say is bad for Louis is amplified by 100 for MKB, yet there all is fine… so odd…

I was reallly hoping you would actually engage in an honest discussion, because if you actually could make a case for Louis being toxicly negative, i’d love to hear it, and i think he would also love to hear about how & why and try to improve on that. His goal has always been to empower his viewers, if he’s doing the opposite, i’m sure he’ll do his best to change that. Similarly to the other points we could discuss.

But you seem to be intent on just trolling and refusing to answer… so the dialogue ends here i guess… Thanks for at least trying to make one or two points, it’s always interesting to see other opinions :).

Ok, name his sponsors… i’ll wait…

He makes videos on youtube to empower his viewers and because he feels he has messages that are important to be heard. You know… there are still genuine people out there that do things not for profit.

and again, everything you’re saying is even waaaaay more true for MKB, so why does he get a pass?

You’ve got one more chance to actually adress the arguments, if not, i can only assume you’re a troll.

But it obviously isn’t how he makes his money. He used to make his money with his repair shop, now futo is paying him to do right to repair/open software advocacy. Youtube pays jack shit for the amount of views he gets, and he never took sponsors, so youtube was never the way he earned his money. He gets some money from it, but would absolutely love it if everyone watched him on odyssey or any other platform that isn’t youtube and that doesn’t pay him anything.

And yeah, there is truth to ragebait working well in algorithms. But you’re making a claim that’s plain false: he has economic incentives, and you’re avoiding a few more:

• You claim he’s got financial incentives to do all the ragebaiting. He regularly mentions his finances don’t depend on youtube, never have, it’s probably a fun extra for him, but it’s never been what makes the money for him.
• You seem to prefer MKB, because he’s positive. But his income does depend on youtube, and he’s heavily sponsored by the brands he reviews. So somehow because he’s positive all the things you claim are an issue for Louis Rossmann aren’t an issue for MKB??
• Your algorithm claim: you claim the algorithm favors his kind of content, but his channel is far smaller than the less critical techchannels such as MKB and LTT that take all the sponsor money and say all is fine. So it seems the algorithm favors that even more?

And you name his negativity toxic, why? He’s addressing actual shit that is happening all around us and can get you into serious issues in the future. Your car manufacturer selling your data to your insurance can have a serious impact on your life. Manufacturers suing customers that leave a bad review can seriously ruin your life, … But at the same time he always tries to use this criticism to empower the viewer to make better choices, to teach you how to avoid such issues, and how you can make a difference. Just this week he made a video regarding doing business in an ethical way, that’s like the least toxic video possible, his message is always: bad shit is happening, here’s how to spot it, here’s how to make a difference, and not “all is lost, you may now despair because there’s nothing you can do about it”

Your arguments are imo very biased, and simply don’t show the truth. I know the kind of youtubers you mean, and there are plenty, but putting people like Rossmann in that basket is just insane. He actively tries to make the world a better places. Makes incredible videos on how you can be part of the change, has for over a decade done everything to empower his viewers and customers, and you’re all like “he’s just a toxic negative youtuber that does it for money”.

And one follow up question: can positivity be toxic? Can the likes of MKB & LTT just sweep all the stuff that’s happening under the rug, take huge payouts to make the viewer look the other way, and just slowly let everything enshittification take its course and make everything worse for the consumer until someday we wake up and wonder where it all went wrong and why we didn’t see it coming? That’s what it feels like for me when i watch those channels “all is fine, don’t look into the closet full of skeletons please”.