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  • The setup I’m describing would just be incus running on the Debian host. You’d then spin up a VM with incus and run Docker Swarm inside the VM. Yes, there’s a little bit of overhead with running the VM, but it’s pretty minimal and makes it a lot easier to backup your whole server (since it’s a VM) verses trying to backup a physical server.

    You can run all of your containers in this incus VM. Yes, you could just run containers on the host but this setup makes it easier to keep everything self-contained IMO. Also, maybe you’ll have a need to do something in the future that can’t run in a Linux container (e.g. a FreeBSD server), so having the ability to spin up VMs and not only containers is useful




  • I’ve been meaning to write a guide like this but haven’t had a chance to complete it yet. In short, I’d recommend setting up an Ubuntu Server instance on some old hardware and using incus with ZFS to setup a separate container or VM for each service you want to run: https://linuxcontainers.org/incus/introduction/

    This way, if something doesn’t work out, you can just delete the container or VM. It also makes it easy to make snapshots or backups before you make a change (e.g. perform an upgrade) so you can easily roll back.

    You can even try incus online (see the above link) to get an idea of how it works.