Eh? I never cheered anything on. If anything I would want all sides to be treated equally. Either you’re allowed to open a fund me for criminal defence or you’re not.

I don’t choose what I support based on my political leaning and I think anybody that does is a dishonest person.

Edit: I was merely asking a question as I recall funds being raised for Rittenhouse, I just didn’t recall which site.

You wouldn’t be dead. You would be alive living with the facts your moral compass got your whole family blown up whilst the killer roams free, according to my hypothetical at least.

Anyway, you do support murder. If you eat meat, use pesticides, etc.

I mean I did say the island was reachable by boat, but hey avoid the question because I suspect you would agree with murder in that situation.

Kinda has the only moral abortion is my abortion vibes, just swap out abortion for murder.

I’m afraid you’re not living in the real world then.

Nobody was going to arrest Hitler, he was the leader of a country. Much like nobody is actually going to arrest Netanyahu. So that means they’re able to continue ordering the murder of innocent people.

Now I think it’s insane that you would be so staunchly against murder for any reason, even when the person who should be murdered doesn’t share your morals and will happily be complicit in the murder for thousands and millions of people. It’s a massively naive take on the world and I’m flabbergasted that an adult could hold your beliefs, well unless religion is involved as that tends to skew people with some belief that people will get what they deserve when they did, which itself is a little naive.

One final hypothetical:

You’re on vacation on a deserted island with your family and some lunatic has taken a boat to the same island. They’ve rigged up some explosives in your families cabin and are going to blow it up in 60 seconds, you find a sniper rifle (assume you know how to use it) and have the ability to shoot this dude before he blows up your family.

Are you still not going to take action? Are you still a pacifist in this situation?

So you would be cool with someone else killing Hitler, for the greater good?

Yet you would let him continue his genocidal tyranny rather than being ok with him being murdered.

But you said you wouldn’t kill Hitler even if you had knowledge he would go on to cause millions of deaths. I think that is misguided, in that your reasoning isn’t sound. Because you think murder is wrong you would allow millions to die for the sake of one monster.

Now if you’d come back and said something along the lines that perhaps someone else would have taken hitlers place and nothing would really have changed would have been a different discussion, but you didn’t so I have to assume you didn’t think that and you just object to murder, even to save a life.

I was referring to the anti-social personality type in which someone is not adverse to breaking laws, lying, stealing, etc. rather than id rather not socialise with people, although that is true too.

I am not American either, they don’t have a monopoly on violence, well geo-politically they might do actually.

Anyway, as I said in the other thread I don’t judge you and was just interested in hearing another perspective, as clearly I am anti-social to some degree, so it’s interesting to hear from people who are not.

Appreciate your honesty, even if I think it’s a little misguided.

I would have put a bullet in Hitler’s head without hesitation if I knew how many people he would go on to kill, I actually think it would be my responsibility to make the world a better place.

If I was tried for that crime and sentenced to life in prison, then I would accept that as the cost of doing the right thing.

Now I imagine Luigi wrestled with the same things and is happy to face charges for doing what he thought was right and I find that admirable, much more admirable than letting someone like Hitler cause millions of deaths because I didn’t want to get my hands dirty.

I want you to know I am not judging you and I support your belief in your morals and where you draw the line, I just wanted to open a discussion as someone who is somewhere on the ASPD spectrum, it always interests me what lines people have and their reasons for them.

Have a nice day. 😊

I am saying the system he helped caused people to die that did not need to die. I am saying it causes untold suffering to their families and friends.

It seems to me that systemic suffering is fine as long as shareholder value is increased.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

• JFK

I live my life similar to Luigi, although to a lesser extent. In that I don’t let things like the law dictate what I will and will not do, more that I will weigh up the pros and cons of a particular action. When a person doesn’t believe the world is being run morally we will go off our own morals of what we believe is right and I truly believe the world would be a better place if certain people were not in it anymore. If you can kill 1 person and it improves the lives of say 100 people , then have at it and kill that sob.

If you were in a room with Hitler before he came to power and you some how knew what he would go on to do, are you saying you wouldn’t have killed him?

Yet you’re not a fan of removing that corruption (cancer) from the Earth by violent means.

I wonder if you think any other means could be used to remove such people from power, as from what I can see people protest and are violently crushed, people can try political means (Bernie/Corbyn) and the media machine will come out in force to slander them, people can march but will be vilified for causing a nuisance.

It seems to me like violence is the only thing that can spur on a revolution. Hello Syria, Libya, Hamas, the Americans kicking out my country over taxes.

Thanks. Looks like there are more right wing places people can donate. Who would have thought I would be willing to use such a site.

Fair, even if I think it’s a little naive.

Say, a man is going to go and murder an entire city and to stop him you must kill him. You’re saying you wouldn’t support that and would be happy for a whole city to die instead?

Why would they want to off this kid.

We all know why he did this, it isn’t a secret that insurance companies are paying evil. If anything killing him now will rally more people to his cause.

They will just re-write history as they did with Guy Fawkes and have us singing songs as though he was a bad guy and not someone who wanted to rock the establishment.

Why good? Genuinely curious.

Do you only support murder if it’s systemic and done in the interests of shareholders?

Did they allow Rittenhouse to use GoFundMe?

Surely, Luigi is innocent until proven guilty too.

If that’s what you’re passionate about (helping others) you will never be a billionaire.

They only like to pretend to do good things to try and whitewash their reputation.

Never say never, but this doesn’t seem like a non intelligent person and I think any of know that going to public places when you’re the most wanted person is the country is a little silly.

It’s one thing to think nobody will actually recognise you, it’s another to do this whilst carrying all the incriminating evidence.

I will say it’s been an interesting year for crazy stories. First Israel is using supply chain attacks to blow up pagers and now this guy going full Adjuster in NYC.

I mean the consensus is the vast majority supported his actions.