“Democracy sustains capitalism. Capitalism thrives in a democracy."

Buy a loaded submarine on the hush-hush and sail it to Vancouver? I like it.

I don’t think we could realistically hide it from their agents but yeah, totally. That’ll probably be the way if our gov’t decides to do it.

Or maybe servo didn’t mourn the fascist Charlie Kirk enough: This is Ladybird’s Creator.

Oh boy. Yeah, that’s pretty clear. Anyone putting Kirk in a positive position as a genuine debater of ideas has crossed the rubicon or placating someone who has.

Agreed. I just think that would make it certain.

If we could get nukes secretly I’d be all up for it.

I wish but… Do you think they won’t invade us at the whiff of nuclear armament?

If only there was a vaccine…

Can he use some emergency power to fund ICE and other law enforcement during a gov’t shutdown?

It’s not that socialism is a silver bullet that eliminates racism. It’s that capitalism makes it virtually impossible to stop competing for profit growth. This turns more nature and human labour into things, even if we throw those things away. That drives much higher exploitation of resources and people than needed to have decent average standard of living. And when some people organize to stop their own explotation, racism is deployed by capitalists to exploit more the groups that didn’t.

Socialism allows to stop the unlimited profit growth cycle and thus decrease the intensity of exploitation, which allows decreasing or stopping the explotation on the basis of racism. Doesn’t guarantee it but it surely makes it likely. Capitalism makes the opposite likely.

And that’s before we consider class consciousness’ effects on people.

So science aside, RFK threw a patent-free drug under the bus while letting much more lucrative ones unscathed? Well played Big Pharma!

Yes. Expecting anything but a cost-benefit analysis that maximizes profit in the given conditions is all we can expect from capitalist for-profit corporations. If capitulation is the more profitable route, most of them would take it.

For-profit corporations managed to create this veneer of taking a stand on social issues during the last 15 years and many of us fell for it to some degree. So when the mask started falling off over the last little while it was somewhat surprising. But it shouldn’t be.

Makes sense. They want to make money. Getting fucked by the FCC would do the opposite of that. Losing some viewers is better than losing all viewers.

E: For maximizing profit in the context they operate. Not for the benefit of society.

In my opinion I don’t think some of the things you’re saying show good understanding of capitalism. I’m not saying this to offend or belittle.

I think it’s both. There’s also the argument that racism (more specifically dehumanization) was fostered as a tool for acquiring new resources and people for capitalism to exploit during colonization. Removing racism from the equation but leaving capitalism in place would likely lead to fascism which would invent a new type of racism or discrimination. Removing capitalism from the equation would remove the economic pressure that drives racism and start further processes that contribute to lessening of racism and building solidarity across people.

You might be right. I’m looking at that as a more general issue of what “no politics” implies. E.g. can we use that to predict how the people working on it would handle the project affiliation in the future. That is, for example are they willing to let it be taken over by a large tech corporation? They’re already using the weakest of licences - BSD. The whole point of us supporting another browsing engine by contributing to it, developing for it, or using it is so that we escape the browser-under-ad-company problem. If make Ladybird the next Chromium competitor and the team gets jobs at say Microsoft, then we’d end up back to square one.

This political reapobse will lend a lot of credibility to Palestinian and allied voices who’ve been saying this forever.

Israel, much like many other countries needs to go beyond capitalism.

Perhaps Servo isn’t apolitical enough. 🥹

Remember, technology is political and our major technology-related problems are political, not technological. We wouldn’t be building alternative browsing engines if Chromium was a community-built project, unaffiliated with an ad company.

E: FWIW, this comment suggest the initial political Ladybird snafu may have been remediated.

“And I have another message for you: it will not happen. A Palestinian state will not be established west of the Jordan River.”

Okay, now that he says this in English to our faces, can we stop talking about Israel’s cooperation in a two-state solution?

Depression when? FDR2 can’t come soon enough.