Compassion >~ Thought
Probably it depends which corners you look at.
A tiny niche subreddit I would presume would be more civil than a politics community here.
It’s also a lot easier to dox people IRL here. e.g. self-host something, get someone to click, and there you go.
And that’s just the people who even read the rules in the first place - many people, sadly, do not (or perhaps do and simply do not care? well, there is no functional difference).
I disagree, bc “exactly zilch” is fairly extreme. It can do something, perhaps it would not be enough but it could have a measurable impact. How would we know if we do not try?
PieFed has a number of features designed to democratize moderation - e.g. keyword filtering (allowing users to filter All, None, and even just Some content, of e.g. Musk or Trump or USA) facilitates individual end-users to curate their experiences so that mods don’t have to be as aggressive at removing things.
Another cool feature is the user icons - like a brand-new account on the Fediverse gets an icon next to their name, as too does someone who receives let’s say >10x more downvotes than upvotes, or a potential unregistered bot account that posts 10x more often but never replies to comments. These icons don’t remove content like a moderator would, just label it so you can choose to use that knowledge however you wish.
Another one is that people looking for a less controversial discussion environment can auto-hide or even auto-remove content from your feed - I have these turned off but if someone would be offended easily and want not to see things that are heavily downvoted, they have this option. Here it is the combination of the entire community and the end user deciding their personal tolerance threshold that decides what content appears in someone’s feed. There are also options to use “community members only” votes, to help separate drive-by votes from people who have not joined the community and were just scrolling All, e.g. for polls and such.
Oh yeah, PieFed has polls. Also flairs - both user and post. And categories of communities that are user customizable and shareable. It has a ton of new features, both related and unrelated to community moderation. Check it out!
And then die?
And after that, who knows? 🤪🧟
birbs are ridiculousness, confirmed
It definitely was stated yes. I don’t want to try to search for it now that dubvee.org is down, but fwiw I definitely recall seeing multiple posts by him stating exactly that, how he wanted to replicate “Beehaw” behavior.
Edit: e.g. a link I shared with someone earlier, not that it works anymore but if it helps: https://dubvee.org/post/dubvee.org/1516426 .
This comment wins Lemmy for today.🤗
Probably nowhere near as bad as that hippy freak, what was his name… “Jesus”?
Or a hand-picked successor.
The edits may be confusing but the changed part was put above rather than below:
Original plea below, though it’s superseded by the above.
So while below one of the horizontal line separators he asks for help (then crosses out that text), above he adds:
This instance is shutting down for good on 7/31/2025.
You are on PieFed.social, so you do not have “frontends” like Lemmy does, you (we) have “themes” - go to Account -> Settings -> Themes, like Trans Pride, Card Shadow, etc. I use “PieFed”.
The developer in question specifically declined remuneration - he enjoyed his day job and did not want to quit it, and just was happy to share both his code (Tesseract) and instance (dubvee.org) with anyone, completely free of charge.
https://dubvee.org/about#donations :
I built Tesseract in my spare time as a hobby, learning excercise for Svelte, and to address my own personal annoyances with Lemmy and other Lemmy UIs. That said, I do not feel the need to accept donations for its development.
However, if you really want to donate, please consider donating to one of the following:
Xylight: They are the author of Photon from which Tesseract was forked who also did a lot of the heavy lifting for much of the core. While I’ve replaced a lot of it, none of my work would have been possible without theirs.
As a totally third party here, may I say thank you for your efforts at explanation? Far too often social media can be too aggravating for (some) people not involved in the initial conversation to even want to read (ahem Reddit cough; btw also fuck spez cough), and it is “room-temperature” comments like yours (i.e. not extremist/hyperbolic/aggravating) that allow people to keep going.
They absolutely saw it coming - and have been continually posting about it for several years now. This was an experiment, and he is saying that it has now finally failed - not that after multiple years on Lemmy that it finally dawned on him that people can be mean on the internet.
In his latest message he even goes into some depth as to why it failed: it used to be containable, but after lemm.ee’s shutting, all those trolls shifted over to other instances, and he simply does not have the heart to try and figure out which spammers and such that used to have one name (that he had blocked so their messages did not appear on his instance) now have an entirely different, unrelated name but are still up to their old tricks.
Which is important considering that he lives in the USA and could be carted off in a van someday without warning, just for the extremist leftist content that he chooses to host on the machine registered to his irl name (even if deriving from an outside source - but they will not care about that, only that Dear Leader’s name has been besmirched).
You might have read it in reverse? He started by asking for help from additional admins, then switched to wanting to shut it down and just be done with the Fediverse completely.
If he comes back, it will be on Beehaw or some such.
I don’t think the Lemmy software can do anything about it, as it places too much emphasis on manual labor on behalf of the moderators to keep up.
PieFed has some really neat ideas though, on democratization of moderation where users can set software preferences, thereby taking a substantial burden off the shoulders of the mods.
e.g. instead of relying on mods to remove posts, keyword filtering allows individual users to reduce exposure to topics such as “Musk” or “Trump” or “USA”. Or user icons are really cool - e.g. new user account with age <2 weeks, or highly contentious user with >10x more downvotes than upvotes, or potential unregistered bot account that posts >10x more often than they reply in comments. None of those cause “removal” of content except in the recipient’s personal feed.