Wait, you’re telling me other countries are justified in responding to attacks on their nation that are acts of war?! I never knew! I thought only the US was allowed to attack nations that never attacked them and then cry about fake WMDs.
These Iranians sure have some nerve just existing next to Israel.
The lies are the same. But we are in a completely different America than 20 years ago. This is the actions of a dying empire. 2003 were the actions of a empire that thought it could never lose.
The imperialism will be turned inward much much more this time. Fascism needs a war to justify it’s authority domestically.
Yeah. American foreign policy is always bipartisan. How they decide to spin it is the only difference between parties.
Someone has to.
Unfortunately, those with the material means to be able to move them and their family to another country are the ones least likely needing to do that.
Unpopular opinion. But we’d be here if Trump was never elected. The US has wanted reason to invade Iran for decades. Trump definitely does damage to America’s image. But, as far the the third world’s image of America, no one did more damage than Biden did with his Genocide of Gaza.
The main point being. US imperialism is not directed by the president alone. It is directed by Americas defense industry and military industrial complex. I think the main difference between Trump or a Biden/Harris would be the aesthetics. And maybe going through the steps of Congress. But this war is what Imperialism is demanding.
Yeah. You’re not wrong. China has trade with everyone. It’s why they always just “condemn” and then continue trading. My point is that at some point they will have to take action in defense of their Allie’s at the US keeps escalating.
Yeah. My point is more so about how America is viewed by the rest of the world and it’s Allie’s today in comparison to Iraq. We are far far less respected. World’s done with pretending to believe our lies.
It’s not that. They are forming a narrative for the American public’s concent. It’s not that Trump is dumb. It’s not that the news media is dumb. It’s that they think the American public is dumb (and they are).
We aren’t at the point of “we are a superior race and need to kill all these Muslims” yet. So we still attempt to justify our absolutely unjustifiable actions. At least to the dumbest people of American. That’s who this is for. No one else.
China needs to start caring about how these actions from the US are threatening it’s own stability. I don’t want war with China. But there is a point where they will be forced to take actual action to defend their allies. And that’s what the US is banking on. They want world war. This is another step towards that.
Dude on CNN talking about how “now we are looking for Iran to come to the table for diplomacy”. They are really trying to set up concent for further involvement.
I feel like I’m losing my mind watching all news media. So just a reminder for people.
Iran attacked no one until they were first attacked by Israel. They literally got attacked by Israel days before a diplomatic talk scheduled with the US. I’m losing my mind over how blatantly our media manufactures concent for war.
God damn America. We’re such fucking scumbags dude. Fuck our imperialism.
Look forward to further fascist policies domestically now. Anyone against Trump now is going to get labeled an enemy of the state during war time.
We are so fucking dumb and bloodthirsty. This is just 2003 but somehow with an even dumber president and far far less allies.
I use to love space travel as a kid and a young adult. And now, at, 34 years old, I just want my neighbor to be able to have healthcare.
Absolutely. Numbers have power too. If you happen to be around when this happens do not let the eyes of those around you turn the other way.
Everyone is waiting for someone to say something. But no one has said anything so we all think “well, I guess I don’t know the whole story because no one ELSE is doing anything”. It’s quite a well documented human group behavior.
You need to be that first voice. You need to shake everyone else out of that thought. Because you know exactly what it is. It’s scary to be that first or second person to speak up.
But another well documented human behavior is that when someone goes to help, others join in, they get shaken out of their “freeze” and decide to fight.
Our society isn’t broken enough yet for people not to care when someone is being kidnapped. They just need you to call it what it is.
Just keep calling “ICE” liars. If they try to say they are federal agents just keep saying they are lying. Do everything to delay until you have enough support to make them feel afraid. Again, they are Nazis. They are not brave. They are scared little losers. Don’t let them feel safe to get out of their black vans.
Absolutely. They should be afraid to get out of their van. They should be treated as if they are wearing a Nazi uniform.
I get what you mean. But, materially, there is not much of a difference. You should absolutely do everything in your power to stop or resist them.
They are Nazis with a badge or Nazis without a badge. That badge doesn’t change what should be done to them by anyone that sees them. They should not feel safe getting out of their van. There are more of us. Get organized and be ready to be that 2nd or 3rd or 4th random stranger that is brave enough to standup to them.
Nazi’s aren’t brave. They are wimpy little losers. That’s why they are Nazis. Don’t let them feel safe anywhere they go.
I always thought “some” was being too charitable.
They don’t have to have read Lenin mate. They are doing what any resistance force would do when faced with generations of settler colonialism, apartheid, and genocide.
The material actions of a group and how they resist imperialism are what we define them by.
I had a similar response and then saw your comment later after I wrote mine. Just wanted to say I agree and maybe have a shared “annoyance” with the commenter that you have (not really them individually but more what narrative they are repeating from MSM).
I focused more on trying to agree with the aesthetics of liberals like this while also pointing to why what they do is unhelpful. I don’t know if it connects. I try to push them in the right direction.
From your comment Id assume you’re not American. So, I just wanted to give you some hope. There are a small minority of us that have learned from the past. A small minority that understand historical materialism and how to apply it to what we see today.
And, even more so, there are a lot of the population saying “no” out of instinct. Seeing the repeated history of the US and it’s lies and just going with a gut feeling of distrust. I know it’s not not much. But it is something.
Idk where I was going with this response. But I understand your frustration when someone tries to use civil rights suppression to justify literally bombing that didnt threaten us in anyway.
We just get verbatim talking points from 2003; that I heard at 12 years old and was skeptical of even then. My best friends joined the military soon after and I did not. Out of “instinct” and nothing more. So, I’d say that “instinct” during this new generation is even stronger. It’s something. Something I hope is strong enough for a better world in the future. Maybe in the shade of the trees that we plant but never get to enjoy.
Yeah. That’s just a red flag for me at this point. If you’re still calling this genocide “a war” I really can’t respect anything that you say.