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  • Also consider a healthcare career. As a teenager, I wanted to do computer science/engineering, and sometimes I do wish I had stayed on that track. But now, as a nurse, I could get a job in any state in the US by tomorrow. I dare you to try to find a hospital that doesn’t have open nursing positions. Even when the economy goes down, people still get sick. Even if society collapses, the knowledge/skills will be useful.

    And if you don’t want to change diapers or deal with blood, there are still options; I’m in psychiatry and rarely have to deal with either.



  • As a vegan:

    A. wtf, why would this warrant banning? At most it should have been a warning to use a less hostile tone? B. Why is it absurd? Should I be okay with a burglary in my neighborhood when there are wars going on somewhere else? Your equivocating meat consumption with wasteful transport suggests to me a fundamental misunderstanding of the motivations of veganism. No sentient, feeling creature has to suffer and die for someone to take a jet ride, but they do for me to eat a hamburger. I think the private jetters should feel guilty too, but for different reasons. In any case, how do you feel about dog meat?

    Regarding availability and cost efficiency: shipping soybeans from Kansas fields to a cattle ranch in Nebraska and then the beef to a grocer in Idaho is less efficient than shipping soybeans from Kansas to the grocer (obviously, this is an oversimplification). Not to mention that animals aren’t perfect energy converters, reducing efficiency further. I’m not arguing that it’d be easy for the whole world to convert to veganism, but in most developed countries it’d actually be more efficient and cost effective (at the society level; not necessarily for all individuals) for most people not to eat meat. Especially if subsidies for animal agriculture were redirected to plant agriculture.

    In any case, who’s actually “ramming” ideology? As a casual lemmy user, I do see a surpising number of discussions on the matter of veganism, but most of what I’ve seen has been pretty civil. I do recall a lot of self-defeating thoughtless toxicity from vegans in the vegan subreddits, but I haven’t witnessed it myself on lemmy.


  • Hazor@lemmy.worldtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world100% vegetarian
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    I don’t quite follow your argument. Are you suggesting it requires more cropland to make vegan food than meat? If everyone ate crop-derived foods in place of livestock-derived foods, we’d need less cropland, because livestock animals are not perfect energy converters. I.e., it takes more than a pound of feed to get a pound of beef.

    Or are you saying it’s hypocritical of a vegan/vegetarian to eat products of agriculture because of the damage to the natural environment and animals which reside in it? The only non-hypocritical thing for me to do in that case would be to kill myself. Forgive me if I don’t. Perfect is the enemy of good, and so I’ll choose to minimize harm where I can.


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    We can’t eliminate all suffering and harm, so we shouldn’t even try reducing it? Perfect is the enemy of good. For many if not most vegans, it’s about minimizing harm. Many are motivated by ecological concern as well.

    Some insects die on my car’s grill when I’m driving. I still go to work every day while calling myself vegan. Literally the only non-hypocritical action would be to kill myself. Forgive me if I don’t.







  • Nurse here: I have a hard time imagining vaccines won’t be covered by insurance unless federal law starts to prohibit it for some bonkers reason. Vaccines are the simplest and most effective prevention for a number of illnesses which can require expensive care. And they’re cheap. Vaccines are good for the bottom line. Like, they’re practically gold. If they didn’t make financial sense, insurance companies wouldn’t be covering them. It would be unfathomable for insurance companies to elect not to cover them unless they can also elect not to cover treatment for the resultant illness.

    That said, I think the much more likely thing is RdumbFucK Jr. trying to make them unavailable, because clearly someone who has zero training in medicine or infectious disease or any science of any kind knows better than the collective consensus of the entire world’s medical community… So, get your vaccinations while you can.