• Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      edit-2
      15 days ago

      You are claiming that biological male and female has no use because of the edge cases where its not so clear, but its still useful most the time.

      Besides, assigned at birth is pretty clear too. Doesnt say assigned at birth and can never change or assigned at birth and we are super sure.

      You can’t just say people can’t use a bunch of words because transphobes have used it as an insult. The words are still meaningful, and hateful people will say literally anything. Why give them any power in the first place?

      If someone says some awful transphobic shit, then fuck their opinion and fuck them and move on with your day. They aren’t suddenly some messiah giving you gospel. Dont let them live rent free in your head.

      • bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        15 days ago

        Yeah the use of the word is in relation to the edge cases, where it is not useful.

        These discussions are around the edge cases. Use the accepted terms that experts use to refer to these people.

        • nomous@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          15 days ago

          Hey look the firing squad is starting to bend in towards itself.

          We gotta make sure we use the right words before we can even begin to have a productive conversation, if those words change every 6 months that’s just too bad, use the current one or you’re a bigot.

        • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          14 days ago

          Why would you assume I’m skeptical that trans people exist?

          I’m skeptical of proposed solutions, but I am with anything. Put another way, I know the problem is real, but I wouldnt say the causes or solutions are well understood.

          Additionally I’m concerned with the social pressure that is put on people to shut up and accept whatever a trans person tells you. That makes me skeptical that people are arguing unbiased.

          Lastly, I dont like that we seem to be pushing ahead without proper scientific review (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/03/health/aap-gender-affirming-care-evidence-review.html).

          I really hope we have all guessed right already, and I understand some might feel they have run out of time, but to me theres a lot of unanswered or unsatisfyingly answered questions.

    • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      15 days ago

      You didn’t even debate my point. I was only referring to amab and afabs. I don’t care about the edge cases because they’re not part of the point I’m making. It’s been well known that individuals with XY chromosomes and a penis are biologically male a.k.a amab, so what’s the difference?