The EMMC on my PC-TV finally broke down and I’d like to replace it with something that doesn’t run an OS or will predictably fail with a countdown. But dumb TVs are hard to come by and monitors come at a premium at that size. I want to run a PC (DP/HDMI) and an SBC (HDMI) with it. I also have an S2 satellite cable, but that’s secondary. I’d like to have ~43", 16:9, 4K but without an embedded smart-hub, ideally running of eeprom-firmware, or just anything independent of write-cycles. But I can’t find any good options online. Are there companies for this. Comments and recommendations welcome.

Edit: I’m EU, hence the DVB-S2 cable. Scepter would be great, but doesn’t run on EU power.

Edit: I’ve pretty much settled on a philips 439P1/00. I’ll give it another day, but it seems good. The PC over DP is my main focus and I can connect my own SBC for streaming. It lacks freesync but has adaptive sync and basic HDR. Being an office-monitor, it has no smarts and at ~600 bucks with consumer warranty and support it fits what I’m asking for well. Industry-signage wasn’t really an option.

  • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    20 days ago

    I don’t know, but if good smart TVs are cheaper than good dumb ones, you might consider ignoring/disabling the smart bits. I might go so far as to sever the Wi-Fi/Bluetooth antennas.

    Tom’s Guide: Dumb TVs — here’s why you can’t find them anymore

    That’s because, for a number of reasons, it’s cheaper and more profitable for TV makers to simply include a smart platform with every TV they ship out. It’s actually a major reason why TVs have become so much cheaper in the last decade — with a smart platform, TV makers can sell the hardware at cost or even take a small loss, but in the end make money through the advertising that shows up on the homescreen.

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      20 days ago

      This is the advice I usually give. I hate the concept of smart TVs, but I’m not willing to spend more when I can just ensure my Hisense U8K never connects to the internet. It’s a gorgeous and completely affordable display for the quality it provides, and there are no relevant features that are unavailable because it’s offline.

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    20 days ago

    Are people aware that they can buy a smart TV and never conntect it to wi-fi and never plug in the ethernet? There is no risk if TV never gets an IP.

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      It’s possible a smart TV will use its wifi to connect to another device of the same brand on its own. I’d read an article about it a couple years ago.

      If I’m reading about it, that means a company has been working on it, and frankly it makes sense. If I were in their shoes I’d look into making it happen. It’s pretty trivial to do when you think about it.

      Not that I think it’s happening in the wild, just an idea to keep in mind.

      Also, those devices are always capturing data. So if/when they ever connect, that data will get uploaded.

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          I think what they were talking about is the TV actively scanning for similar models and connecting to those to reach the internet. I’ve read similar articles showing how smart TVs will even connect to an open WiFi network to try to get online.

          All this would bypass your LAN restrictions of course.

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        19 days ago

        There is no meaningful data for the OS to capture if it used as a display for externally connected devices.

        The only way to have 100% privacy on all devices is not have internet service.

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            19 days ago

            I guess that you cannot read well so I will say it plainly, when a TV has no access to the outside internet over the lifespan of the TV, zero information or files will ever be uploaded and will stay on TV with no external copy existing anymore.

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              19 days ago

              Also, those devices are always capturing data. So if/when they ever connect, that data will get uploaded.

              This seems to be the key bit of the comment.

              Outside of the examples listed, a more reasonable possibility is if someone else in your home (ex. A family member) connects it to the network. Also even if it doesn’t automatically connect to a public network, well placed popups can also lead to mistakes.

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                19 days ago

                Yoy can dream up every fantasy scenerio you want until you are butt stupid, it does not make it plausible.

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                  19 days ago

                  Have you missed the other comments? It’s pretty well documented that the TV will either find a similar brand TV to connect to (and reach the internet) or as I’ve read, it’ll find an open WiFi network to do so.

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    Currently it’s nearly impossible to find good and big dumb TV, but as mencioned, it’s only smart conected to the internet. Instead of this conect it to an Satelite decoder and a Parabolic outside (not very expensive (<€100) and you have access to hundreds of channels from every country for free. and anonymous.