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LMDE 6 has been officially released. The big deal about this is that it’s based on the recently released Debian 12 and also that being based on Debian LMDE is 100% community based.
If you’ve been disappointed by what the Linux corporations have been doing lately or don’t like the all-snap future that Ubuntu has opened, then this is the distro for you.
I’m running it as my daily driver and it works exactly like the regular Mint so you don’t lose anything. Clem and team have done a great job, even newbies could use Debian now.
Personally I think LMDE is the future of Linux as Ubuntu goes it’s own way, and this is a good thing for Mint and the Linux community. Let’s get back to community distros and move away from the corps.
EDIT: LMDE is 64bit only. There is no 32bit option.
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Been using mint for a while on my main machine and I’m not keen on doing a reinstall, but the next time I do I’ll definitely be looking at Debian edition.
If you don’t have Nvidia gpu, then LMDE is better. It is slightly snappier and boots slightly faster.
Oh dang. It sucks to hear that my 10 year old GPU is still poorly supported.
Well, the thing is I don’t have Nvidia gpu but it is a general rule since LMDE doesn’t ship with the driver manager as the “regular” Mint does.
That’s because it doesn’t need to use the Ubuntu drivers. I’m pretty sure it’s intentional (if a bit less user friendly). I wish distros could come up with a universal(ish) driver app.
Why would anyone support an end of life gpu lmfao
LMDE has proprietary driver repos afaik.
Yes, for NoVideo.
Oh boy, here I go distro-hopping again.
Just kidding - you can pry Slackware from my cold, dead hands.Challenge accepted
Can anyone tell me if the Debian Testing branch has been stable? I like Debian, and I like rolling release to be more up to date, so I was considering swapping from Fedora.
Either use Stable or Unstable. Testing is actually the most unstable of the three branches, due to how Debian works:
Updated packages are first introduced into Experimental, then into Unstable when they actually build and run. So Unstable is equivalent to Arch’s main branch.
Then they automatically enter Testing after a few weeks without anyone reporting a critical bug.What this means: Testing is the only branch where the decision over what enters isn’t made by a human.
If someone notices critical bugs in Testing, the packages may be kicked out of Testing again until the bugs are fixed. So Testing is the only branch where packages can simply disappear when you run an update.
It’s also the most insecure branch: When a vulnerability is discovered, the packages in Stable are patched to close it. The packages in Unstable are updated to a new version that closes it. In Testing, the vulnerability stays until the new version eventually migrates down the line again after spending a while in Unstable.
I’ve run Unstable for years. IMO it’s a great rolling release distro with horrible branding.
Thanks for the info! I know what you mean that unstable is similar to Arch, but I know Arch has like a 3 day period or something like that before it hits the default “stable” repo. Is Unstable similar to that, or do they just raw dog it?
Sid is not a rolling release distro, it’s an unstable distro. If you want a rolling release distro, you want something like Arch Linux, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed or OpenMandriva RR.
Unless you know how to deal with problems, go ahead and install Sid. It shouldn’t be a problem if you already know Linux and Debian specifics.
That’s just semantics in my opinion. Debian Sid isn’t meant to be a rolling release distro, but it works perfectly fine as one.
You have to take the same care as with other rolling release distros - actually read the changelogs, don’t automate updates, and type “No” if it wants to remove packages you need. Other than that, I’ve never had any issues, and never heard from anyone whose Sid brakes regularly.Debian does not agree. They even warn you about packages with unfulfilled dependencies. In my experience, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed does feel like a finished, polished rolling release distro. Sid breaks sometimes, it’s okay for it to get broken. I don’t know your use case but it did for me, especially with some obscure libraries or with very specific versions of scientific ones. It’s not semantics only, Sid is fundamentally designed as an unstable distribution, not as a rolling release one.
But I insist, if it works for you as a rolling release distro, it’s great. I just feel the obligation to warn the others what’s the intention behind Sid.
Very excited to see this. After having been through the last few Ubuntu versions, they have made some very frustrating decisions that have made the system management side a real pain.
I wonder if they’ll ever ditch Ubuntu and release a version based on Debian Sid.
Not Sid, but that’s exactly that Mint LMDE is. Rather than being built on top of Ubuntu, it’s built on top of Debian
I’m excited to give it a try.
I would’ve jumped on this instantly, but I finally landed on a Min21 configuration that works well. New laptop => new hardware => need new nvidia driver => need new kernel.
Which kernel does LMDE currently ship with?
LMDE 6 still has a 32-bit version, probably the last kek
How’s the performance / system requirements compared to Debian 12 with xfce? I’m on pretty old hardware and lower system requirements was why I installed Debian over Ubuntu. I don’t see CPU mentioned in the requirements on that link, just RAM and disk space
Requirements using the standard Cinnamon desktop are 2GB RAM minimum and 20GB disk space. On idle LMDE uses about 900mb RAM without swap. If RAM use increases it will use the swap.
It’s definitely not as light as XFCE so your install will be lighter by quite a bit.
so what would be the difference between LMDE and Debian with cinnamon DE
- Desktop Theming: LMDE is gonna look like Mint out of the box, while Debian is gonna look like this
- Mint Software repositories and Mint’s System tools, like Mint Install or Mint Update, on LMDE
- LMDE is installed with Calamares, which is a little more user friendly than Debian’s installer
If you’re an advanced user there’s no big difference overall, but for a new user LMDE is gonna be a little easier to approach
Literally the only difference is that regular Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu and LMDE is based on Debian.
So LM will use the Ubuntu repo and any additions to the code Ubuntu made, whereas LMDE will use the Debian repos and their code.
At the moment LMDE actually has a newer kernel (6) than LM (5) and newer apps, but that will change with the next version of Linux Mint when it should catch up.
And finally, LMDE is also available in 32bit as well as 64bit, whereas LM is 64bit only.
This is 👍 👌 👍
SteamOS is debian based right? does that mean LMDE will benefit from valve’s commits in some ways mint wouldnt have otherwise?
I thought at least on steamdeck it is more arch based https://www.makeuseof.com/key-differences-steamos-and-arch-linux/
I wonder if I can install this on my late 2011 macbook pro…
Pretty sure you can install it on any Intel based MacBook.
Definitely. I’m assuming that it’s a 64bit CPU, but even if it’s 32bit they’ll have that too
Which Debian version is it based on?
Just fucking use debian lmao.
😂 yeah I hear you but I want the up to date Cinnamon desktop and I like how Mint has configured the system.
You might as well tell others to just use windows at this point.
Edit: Yeah sorry, my point is that freedom is what makes linux linux. I don’t really think you have ever used linux mint before and I don’t want to sound like a white knight for linux mint but you should atleast be a little less condenscending towards a distro that has been among the top distro for beginners to switch and has fulfilled the role of a full OS without ever needing for many like me to dig too deep into linux configs and stuff. Mint’s development towards debian is only a good thing for many users like me because it preserves the future in case of a ubuntu upstream issue, besides freedom is the spirit of linux.
