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    3 months ago

    Leave aside for a moment the argument we might have about what is happening in China… What the fuck would I be able to do about that? Do I vote in China? Do my tax dollars fund their military?

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        3 months ago

        You have to keep the focus on China otherwise you have to face the indefensible American support of genocide. You ask me to seek influence over my own government who already rattles the saber at China, yet I can’t even influence their very direct funding of Israel’s genocide! Tell me how you imagine that would be done? Tell me how I might apply pressure on China in 1/1000 the amount I might apply on my own government.

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      3 months ago

      And american voters also didn’t get to do anything about the palestinian genocide because there were two choices and pretending there were more is delusional at best. And the choice was between a party unwilling to take a strong stance against it vs a party actively encouraging it and saying they’d help. While also openly wanting to genocide minority groups in their own country.

      Well, there is a third choice. It’s the centrist choice of either not voting or voting for an irrelevant party, equivalent to saying “let the others decide”.

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        3 months ago

        Just stop trying to paint the dems as “unwilling to take a strong stance against it” when they were absolutely “actively encouraging it”. What is with this liberal disease of totally ignoring actions while obsessing over words?

        You think I’ve opted out of a decision, but I think you’ve opted in to accepting genocide. How can you accept such a thing? The absolute minimum you should demand of your party is that they oppose genocide. Otherwise, what is the fucking point?

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          3 months ago

          When there are 2 choices and you choose neither that is opting out of a decision, and nothing else. It’s throwing your hands up and saying “well i cant change it anyway, let’s just do nothing”.

          Also, stop pretending like trumps and kamalas stances are identical. They’re not. Trump is right up there with netanyahu in seeing palestinians as subhuman.

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            3 months ago

            If you say you support a ceasefire, but you refuse to stop sending weapons to Israel, then you don’t actually support a ceasefire, and the only rational conclusion is that you actually support the genocide. The difference between the Harris and Trump stances are that one of them lies about their motivations.

            If there are “two choices”, both of which support genocide, then there is actually only one choice. I did not opt out of any decision. I registered a vote of no confidence.