The Senate passed a resolution Wednesday to make business attire a requirement on the Senate floor.

The moves comes after backlash to Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer’s (D-N.Y.) directive to scuttle the chamber’s informal dress code, which was widely viewed to be inspired by Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.).

The bipartisan resolution requires that business attire be worn on the floor of the Senate, “which for men shall include a coat, tie, and slacks or other long pants.”

The bill does not spell out what the attire includes for women.

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    Yes, let’s enforce a classist dress code to remind everyone how classist we are. That’ll fix everything.

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      It certainly makes it more likely for the rich to be able to go to the senate. Especially if you’re an especially big and tall guy like Fetterman who would have to get all of his suits tailor-made.

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          You might not have a nobility but you’ve sure as shit got an aristocracy. Cabots, Lowells, Hearsts, Kennedys…

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            Oh absolutely but they don’t hold titles or political power granted by blood. If the Vanderbilt family loses all its money that’s it. I’ve known several poor people whose family had been old money but lost it all. Our aristocracy has to fight to stay an aristocracy.

            And yeah that’s part of the point of the senate. It was clearly meant for representatives to be the common dredges of society, whoever the hell the people of a small geographical area felt represented them at the time. Both the 6 year term and the 2 per state quantity are meant to make it a more prestigious institution. It’s more expensive to become a senator and you have to be able to appeal to people outside your area. That results in a handful of senators that aren’t alike, but for the most part they’re career politicians, rich people, backed by rich people, or from a more legal background. A representative Kennedy isn’t sure they want to be a politician that much, is breaking their teeth, or is a fuckup, kennedies are senators. The founders of the United States saw themselves in the senate or executive branch. Hell, even in states with more senators than representatives, due to the greater power of senators they’re the ones that fit those descriptions.

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          Attempt? That was the original intent. They still wanted aristocracy, they just wanted it to be wealth based instead of hereditary.

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              Let’s remember that a bastard who married rich that had a good deal of influence on how our government works. He definitely was making sure that he had a future.

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    The tie is the most useless piece of clothing ever invented. It serves no purpose (shut up about the original function, it no longer serves it) except to constrict your airway and dip into your spaghett.

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      The original function of any dress code is always maintained by the aristocracy and adopted by the people to put on the same airs, never the other way around.

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        That’s the first thing I check out when I pick up a nudie magazine.

        Edit: I think… I have no idea what a placket is

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    Sure, cause the ex president with the most federal charges is in business attire and he is an upstanding citizen. Let’s focus on how people look instead of actual issues.

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      It’s only ever about appearances with the repubs. They want the appearance of propriety. If they start dressing like their lessers, then The lessers might realize they are equals.

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        It’s also why suits are so expensive. It’s not like the cloth that makes a suit is any different than the cloth used to make my Slayer T-shirt.

        If all the poors started wearing suits they’d just invent something else and make it cost $1mil per outfit.

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    This is what’s important to these people. They don’t care about millions suffering every day, they don’t care about the climate going to shit, they don’t care about the economy. They’re up in arms because someone might not wear a full suit in their presence. These are your “representatives”.

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      They didn’t get into power magically. Every single one was elected. So unfortunately we get the politicians we deserve. It ticks me off that in a non presidential election it’s basically impossible to get even half of eligible voters to show up at the polls. If more Americans cared then we might get more politicians who care.

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        It’s ostensibly true that they were elected by the people, but after many years of observation I have to assume that no one gets into the position to be on those ballots without an entire shit-ton of shady backroom wheeling and dealing. I assume all of the top level politicians are corrupt and we aren’t given any choices for legitimately altruistic politicians.

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          If the American people wanted better politicians we could vote them in. Most politicians are able to get on a ballot by getting signatures on a petition. If people cared about politics as much as they cared about their entertainment (sports, movies, TV, games, etc) then there would be an entirely different class of politician running for office.

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            I’m not sure we could. Who was on the ballot in the last presidential election? Not anyone whose politics i want to support. I can’t vote people who represent me into power because those people can’t get ballot access. Sanders isn’t even that guy for me but at least he’d be something. He almost broke through twice but each time he was stomped down by the status quo politicians.

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            Say you don’t understand the political economy in the United States without saying you don’t understand the political economy in the United States.

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              I’m always willing to listen someone else’s opinion. What is your diagnosis of current American politics and what’s your prognosis?

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        Not magically, no, but it’s no secret that the more evil the candidate, the more money they get in campaign donations and behind the scenes help from billionaires who really really want them on their side when they are in office. Americans are not getting fair elections with fair information.

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          Americans have more access to good information now than ever before. If Americans want to be informed they can be. Billionaires don’t have mind control rays. Too many Americans just don’t care. Not all but the vast majority of us can name the athletes on our favorite teams going back decades but don’t know the name of the men and women who represent us. Or the name of our state’s governor.

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            To your point, more people have access to information than ever. Good and bad. Look at all the crap around COVID. You have medical professionals releasing studies and vaccine, and some douche named Q saying “Nah, it’s poison. Drink bleach instead”. Obviously this is an easy example to differentiate what’s good and bad info. But people still tried bleach. Countering good information with a malicious, self serving narrative seems to be as easy as saying “That’s what the establishment wants you to think”, and people fall for it all the time. In huge numbers. Over every little piece of bullshit that gets published somewhere. Politics are a huge centre of misinformation and disinformation, making it very challenging to pick out what’s not total crap. And that’s the point.

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                Verify it against what? Additional information of dubious quality? Case in point, the whole “vaccines cause autism” thing. That finding was published by Andrew Wakefield in Lancet and cited everywhere. Only thing is that is was debunked almost immediately, but people kept citing the publication.

                My point being that few people have the gumption to check sources, and if they do, fewer still are going to keep tabs on them more than once, or verify the validity against… yet additional sources. Every step in the process has the end user trying to determine if what they are reading is true, against other information they don’t know is true.

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                  My point is that misinformation has always been here. This isn’t something new. In the past you had to do actual research to verify if something was true, half-truth, or completely untrue. Now you can easily find information. And compared to researching something in a library, easily verify it.

                  This could be a generational thing but it’s so incredibly easy to disprove something now. If you Google, “do vaccines cause autism” in less than a quarter of a second Google gives you government websites, scholarly articles, links to university studies, etc. It’s easier now than ever before to find and verify good information. And I’m not trying to be dismissive but I don’t think anyone will convince me otherwise any time soon.

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    How about instead of making sure they wear the correct clothing, you make sure they do their god damn fucking job of making life better for the citizens. Because that hasn’t been happening for decades now and what they wear while fucking over Americans hardly matters.

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      The crappy thing is it’s our job as citizens to make sure they do their job but too many Americans just don’t seem to care. Getting half of eligible voters to vote in a non presidential election is nearly impossible.

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    If I was Fetterman, it’d now be my personal pet peeve to subvert this dress code whenever I could by showing up in the most ridiculous-but-formally-correct outfits.

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    Imagine a world without conservatives. Immense wastes of energy and time like this would be a thing of the past.

    Conservatism is a disease in need of a cure.

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      I frequently do. A world without conservatives is essentially what I envision a “heaven” to be, not that I’m religious.

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    So glad they can decide on what to wear instead fixing things to prevent a government shut down … phew I was so worried about their priorities there for a moment 😕

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      Well technically it’s the house that needs to prevent the shutdown. That’s the chamber that can’t pass a funding bill.

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    You know this is just going to result in a pride suit right? I 100% expect him showing up in rainbows. Should bring in cat ears as well.

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      All it says is 3 piece suit right? Nothing about the condition of said suit? Slacks, cut off just below the front pockets. Sport jacket, sleeves ripped off. Shirt, top 3 unbuttoned, sleeves rolled up.

      That, or straight pimpin’. Only 2 colors allowed, purple and leopard. Only 2 materials, silk and velour.

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    This is going to help avert a Government shutdown and put millions of people out of work!

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      I absolutely hate to defend the Senate on anything, but there’s really nothing they can do about the shutdown at this point. They’re ready to fund the government. The House isn’t playing ball.