Hey, I might be able to help you out here. I’m pretty sure this can be figured out if one has access to the underlying raw vote data. Which all instance admins do (more or less).
So running this SQL query on my pyfedi instance,
select user_name, sum(effect) from post_reply_vote v inner join “user” u on u.id = v.author_id group by user_name order by sum(effect) asc;
So this account is indeed the most downvoted (or at least the most downvoted that my instance knows about). Interestingly enough the MediaBiasFactChecker bot is the 2nd most downvoted instance.
Number 3 is a human afaik and shows up as -4147 so the margin between this account and the next most downvoted human is indeed a very large one.
So that number three spot is suspect to me too. I would’ve assumed a lot of users over time would have broken -4000. Also aren’t you the dude defending UM to me yesterday? What’s your deal?
Also aren’t you the dude defending UM to me yesterday? What’s your deal?
“Defending” is a bit strong.
I think these two comments explain it better than I did for myself last time around,
The response here is not about whether their behavior was socially acceptable, but whether it was an indication of a fake account being run by multiple people or a script or something.
Basically I was saying your stats, while useful, could be read in a way that did not quite support the “fake account being run by multiple people or a script or something” line of thinking, and that folks should use more critical thinking before making accusations like that.
I realize now that I may have come off snarky asking if /m/politics is leftist. The whole fediverse is, but what I was specifically asking was how we go about dealing with people whose opinions we disagree with.
Conservatives now are a minority in US politics (even though the Electoral College and overall makeup of the states distorts and amplifies their powers in getting to the White House and in the Senate, and gerrymandering doing the same for the House of Res) - but they are still a significant minority.
I kinda viewed it as a test, at least for myself. If I can’t even get along with a self proclaimed socialist who merely can’t give up the love of voting third party, what hope do I have with making peace with an actual conservative? And what happens if we can’t make peace as a country?
That’s why I was asking if /m/politics was open to engagement with conservative views (which no one answered).
haha wow! Thanks for that. So apparently I could just run my own instance to get access to that data… cool, but raises questions. :/ Does it also federate more private data, like DMs?
I would be curious to know, but I don’t see a way to check that in the Lemmy API. Would need some way of searching user data based on criteria.
Hey, I might be able to help you out here. I’m pretty sure this can be figured out if one has access to the underlying raw vote data. Which all instance admins do (more or less).
So running this SQL query on my pyfedi instance,
select user_name, sum(effect) from post_reply_vote v inner join “user” u on u.id = v.author_id group by user_name order by sum(effect) asc;
The first two rows,
UniversalMonk | -23315
MediaBiasFactChecker | -19231
So this account is indeed the most downvoted (or at least the most downvoted that my instance knows about). Interestingly enough the MediaBiasFactChecker bot is the 2nd most downvoted instance.
Number 3 is a human afaik and shows up as -4147 so the margin between this account and the next most downvoted human is indeed a very large one.
So that number three spot is suspect to me too. I would’ve assumed a lot of users over time would have broken -4000. Also aren’t you the dude defending UM to me yesterday? What’s your deal?
“Defending” is a bit strong.
I think these two comments explain it better than I did for myself last time around,
https://lemmy.world/comment/13011607
https://lemmy.world/comment/13010767
Basically I was saying your stats, while useful, could be read in a way that did not quite support the “fake account being run by multiple people or a script or something” line of thinking, and that folks should use more critical thinking before making accusations like that.
I realize now that I may have come off snarky asking if /m/politics is leftist. The whole fediverse is, but what I was specifically asking was how we go about dealing with people whose opinions we disagree with.
Conservatives now are a minority in US politics (even though the Electoral College and overall makeup of the states distorts and amplifies their powers in getting to the White House and in the Senate, and gerrymandering doing the same for the House of Res) - but they are still a significant minority.
I kinda viewed it as a test, at least for myself. If I can’t even get along with a self proclaimed socialist who merely can’t give up the love of voting third party, what hope do I have with making peace with an actual conservative? And what happens if we can’t make peace as a country?
That’s why I was asking if /m/politics was open to engagement with conservative views (which no one answered).
haha wow! Thanks for that. So apparently I could just run my own instance to get access to that data… cool, but raises questions. :/ Does it also federate more private data, like DMs?
Yeah, let me know when you find out! Thanks!