You guys were friends with Chrome?
Seriously! Even back in 2007 I was all “chrome is faster? Great, now Firefox has some competition” I never switched to chrome. You couldn’t pay me to use that privacy nightmare.
I used it when it was new and google didn’t seem so bad. Google even sent me one of the original Chromebook prototypes (CH-47) before they launched as a product for sale. i don’t know when it started to become clear that google was going evil, but around 10 years ago it was really obvious where things were headed.
i don’t know when it started to become clear that google was going evil
It was around the time they removed “Don’t be evil” from their official philosophy.
i haven’t used chrome in over ten years. i could never understand why anyone the least bit nerdy would use it, but that’s autism for ya
Honestly? I’m lazy, my adblocker still works so that’s enough for me
FF has been my daily driver for at least a decade, but I gotta test my web apps in everything :/
I kinda prefer Vivaldi for testing chromium-based browsers. I guess MS Edge would be a similar experience too nowadays
Vivaldi is so pretty, I hide pretty much everything from the interface and use it for making product demo and training videos. I considered using it as a daily but I’ve got FF set up just the way I like it.
I draw the line at installing edge on my linux machine! I just figure that if chrome works then edge works and haven’t had anyone report any issues.
Safari is the real pain in the butt…
Tab groups. I switched from Chrome to Firefox when all this Manifest V3 stuff started, and I’m still looking for a Firefox extension that works as well and looks as clean as the way Chrome handles tab grouping.
Firefox has panorama and supports browser groups which swap the whole visble tab bar. Lots of options.
Neither of those are nearly as effective though
I have run Ungoogled Chromium, Thorium, and Vivaldi, and all of them perform much faster and better than Librewolf.
And Librewolf is my daily driver.
Chromium does have a clean UI. I still use Librewolf but the Firefox UI is a mess
so many webapps and logins dont work properly in ff. or lets call it AdFox for now while they’re still selling us out to alphabet. so autism is when you just see black or white. chrome isnt bad overall…they have a UX, AdFox isnt good overall for too many reasons. i hope we’ll get a real browser before the web is dead.
When have you used Firefox the last time, 10 years ago?
Right? What kind of wildly niche activities are people doing where FF doesn’t work? All of my stuff works, and I’ve never had any weirdness. I browse art, shop online, do social media (a little), check my email, use auction sites, and watch Plex and other streaming services.
There must be an entire corner of the internet I don’t even know about.
today.
I’ve been using Firefox consistently since the beginning in 2004. And Netscape navigator before that. And I have never had these issues you speak of. I never made the switch to chrome when it was released because I always hated the look of it. Firefox does everything anyone needs to do. I don’t understand how some people struggle so much.
Always has been.
If you haven’t used Firefox in 3+ years, its improved a lot. For 99% of people its interchangeable with Chrome except for being in the Google ecosystem.
no. everytime its more shit. slap AI or autotranslate on it while no user hat that top prioritised. this shit stupid search in the middle that takes your cusor to magicbar or what that crap is called. pocket…fuck it. it takes longer to debloat firefox than finding an alternative. shit default search, shit ceo… moz has become 99% worse. TB was so good it had to go to keep the bar super low for future moz releases. devs are the worst in how they handled feature request while taking money from google.
I don’t understand why translation is bad, could you please explain
well either you use it and thats fine eventhough much culture gets lost in translation. or you dont use it at all like me and is just more bloat like shitty pocket. overall i want to chose what to install. my ff profile is so old with every update the first start after update takes ages…and mostly because adfox added stuff i didnt ask for. why is moz so stupid? other plattforms (osx, atlassian jira, slack) allow me to add functionality through their stores but keep the original product clean. adfox goes like slapping shit on everything. lets add AI to improve my searches…ah, why not use ai to do the entire browsing? and thats how idiocracy started.
I’m as frustrated as the next person here when it comes to how AI is crammed into products, but translation between languages is one of the few things AI can be good at. A lot gets lost in translation, sure, but everything is lost when it’s not translated at all. Are we expected to have official translaters for everything? I use it most often translating explanations of how to fix a chunk of code. Someone else solved the problem except that it’s not in a language I understand, one quick AI translation and I can understand what their solution was and deploy it myself. I couldn’t do that ten years ago. Most AI is hot garbage but I find translation AI very useful.
How come you don’t have a usename? Or is it a bug on my side?
BTW, I’m super happy with translation and AI in ff. I guess not every users wants the same, especially for those with english as first langage.
Ublock is building a manifest v3 compatible extension, in case you want to compare the effectiveness of v2 vs v3 Ublock.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin-lite/ddkjiahejlhfcafbddmgiahcphecmpfh
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Brow-curious, lol. I’m gonna use that one
It’s sad that firefox only exists to keep chrome from becoming a monopoly, around 80% of Mozilla’s income is from Google to keep google.com the default search engine.
I tried Vivaldi and honestly it looks and feel amazing, but the issue is that it’s chromium based, but if mozilla put more effort in actually working on firefox, I would love it even more. Wish librewolf had a mobile app
There’s only like one notable website I’ve had to use chromium for instead of Firefox.
The website for recalibrating a Google Pixel’s fingerprint sensor. I’ve had to use that website twice, and I just used Microsoft Edge to do it since I can’t uninstall it.
Really enjoying Zen browser this week, may be my new favorite. The tab handling is VERY weird at first though.
TIL, it is Gecko-based but more than just another Firefox clone.
Kinda neat, right? What do you think of it so far?
Since you asked I had to download it and give it a try. I liked how the installation was simple, just one command, no need to download an installer and follow a wizard. I personally prefer Linux but I’m on Windows now for reasons. Overall it feels familiar but different, I still need more time with it, but I do like the Zen Sidebar feature already.
Oh, I thought you had already.
You mean Librewolf, of course.
Hey let’s not force the guy to move again privacy comes one step at a time.
This tbh. I know Mozilla has been up to some questionable things lately but I only just got a bunch of my friends to finally ditch Chrome.
It is a shame that Firefox won’t support WebSerial. That is the only reason I have to use Chrome.
I need the quick and easy profile switching management in Firefox like I have in Chrome and I’ll never look back.
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That looks like something similar to what I’d find useful, but the requirement to download a separate binary to use the plugin feels like 100% malware and I will not touch it.
bro it’s open source https://github.com/null-dev/firefox-profile-switcher-connector
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Is MV3 finally out?
Congratulations to a partnerships success coming from Google’s payment being Firefox’s main source of income…
