I was gonna include a third option about how money is easier to achieve without considering the morality of your actions but that’s not really a philosophy as much as it is an objective fact.

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    Both. Money attracts corrupt individuals, but it also causes people to become corrupted in some scenarios. It can be a gradual thing, and it doesn’t always have to be drastic things like a black market kidney. Having money opens up options, some of which are more corrupt.

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    Money doesn’t corrupt people; it’s more like a truth serum for the morally flexible. It’s not that money changes people; it just gives them a megaphone to broadcast their inner used car salesman.

    Suddenly, those “creative accounting” skills you never knew you had emerge faster than a politician’s promises during election season. It’s like money has a magical power to turn “I would never” into “Well, just this once” quicker than you can say “offshore account.”

    No one is perfect, and money reflects the not perfect side very well in many!

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    Most things emerge from complex systems.

    “A causes B” or “B causes A” sounds tidy, but obscures the reality.

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    The Mode of Production determines what ideas and traits are more expressed among society. The Base determines the Superstructure, which in turn reinforces the Base.

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      Ok yes but this makes no sense to someone with zero background in marxist theory.

      This is what is being referenced ^

      This means that the values of a society are determined by the economic structure but also that these values then reinforce that structure. So you end up with societal values that closely allign with whatever best reinforces the base. In the case of capitalism that is typically greed. So no, money alone doesn’t corrupt people or make them greedy but the economic system that money facilitates does.

      Correct me if I am wrong about anything 👍

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    Corrupt people will be attracted to money.

    A lot of otherwise honest people will become corrupt if they see others being corrupt and getting away with money and prestige from it.

    A few percent of people will never be corrupted.

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      I’d say it’s this entirely. Honest people don’t seek money, but if they see their peers getting grapes instead of cucumbers for literally no just cause, then that injustice cannot go unanswered unless they get their grapes too.

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    Not really sure. Somebody wire me an obscene amount of money and I’ll report back. Probably.

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    I firmly believe greed comes from two thought processes: A sense of fear, or a desire for authority. I don’t know if wealth will make you a monster, but it will certainly show what you really are.

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    I grew up near an area where a large number high net worth people. For example as a kid I thought Lamborghini was a common car because I saw them all the time.

    In my experience lots of money brings out your true self and let’s you act the way you want. So if you are inclined to be self centered and an asshole you can be a massive asshole. You can also be generous and kind.

    Most rich people are pretty normal. However the normal ones do try to not make it known that they are rich. So you often don’t notice the normal rich people.

    It’s also hard to tell the difference between a person who lives on a 200k a year income and a person with a double digit millions net worth.

    I had a friend as a teen. I invited him to go diving with me as he had never been. He showed up with a 20k wetsuite.

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    Yes. Most people stop making more when they have enough.

    People who don’t stop are already broken and corrupted. They have nothing better to do. No better idea. No other desire. Than to accumulate more. It’s degenerate, sad, to keep wanting more, to feel that hunger when it is already satiated. Like a rat addicted to cocaine, still pushing itself to push the button for more and more.

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      I keep joking that we should make video games mandatory for millionaires when this subject comes up but I legit think that playing some grindy game or management games would make this type of people less greedy to some degree, because at their core they appeal to our seemingly primal urge of always hoarding more resources.