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      3 months ago

      Or, you know, just the ones that are actively posing a threat. Like in all such animal situations.

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          3 months ago

          So it has to actually be bearing down on a group of people before it needs to be euthanized? Really?

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            3 months ago

            There was no hurry. It could have been captured and released back in Greenland, but Iceland won’t do that because of the cost, so they just kill it. How much would you be willing to contribute to prevent a polar bear from being killed?

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              There was no hurry.

              How do you know? Please show me a map of where it was found in relation to places where people live.

              It could have been captured and released back in Greenland

              How do you know this was actually doable? Why do you think the polar bear would survive being dropped off in a random place?

              but Iceland won’t do that because of the cost

              And they should be forced to bear a cost burden they can’t afford?

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                How do you know?

                The articles I have read only say that the woman saw it outside her house. There was no indication that it had attempted anything other than rummage through garbage. And the police had to travel about 30 km by boat to get there, so the response time couldn’t have been quick

                Please show me a map of where it was found in relation to places where people live.

                Well, another article says it was in Höfðaströnd There are only a few buildings there and spread far apart, so the only relevant person is the one woman.

                How do you know this was actually doable?

                They attempted it before so they thought it was doable. There was a commission to decide how to handle polar bears in the future and all they said was that it cost too much.

                And they should be forced to bear a cost burden they can’t afford?

                It didn’t say that they couldn’t afford it, just that they wouldn’t pay for it. (You keep rephrasing things in a way that was not intended to try to make your position stronger. That’s called a strawman argument. You should stop that.) And they seem to be getting a lot of complaints from Icelanders that are upset that they killed the bear, so it probably wouldn’t be forced, but something that many Icelanders would be willing to pay.

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                  3 months ago

                  You still haven’t explained how they were supposed to get it to Greenland without Greenland’s or Denmark’s permission. Just drop it out of a plane with a parachute?

                  You do understand that Greenland is under no obligation to let a polar bear that might be carrying deadly pathogens into their country, right?

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                    3 months ago

                    That would require an effort by conservation groups, the various governments, and polar bear experts. If you really wanted to know you could check the plans they made in previous attempts.

                    I certainly would not be involved so I don’t know why you think I should be the one that comes up with any plan. I don’t have to be a subject matter expert to advocate for a cause. I don’t have to be an OB-GYN to advocate for abortion rights. I don’t have to be an environmental scientist to advocate for action on climate change. And I don’t have to be an expert on polar bears to be able to say “Maybe we shouldn’t kill polar bears.”

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      3 months ago

      Since my comment was removed for trolling (I wasn’t trolling, it was just sarcasm), I will rephrase it. If we accept the premises that any polar bear that is a threat should be killed and every polar bear is inherently a threat, then the conclusion is that every polar bear should be killed. I reject the first premise and conclusion.